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Re:Mental illness: is there a global epidemic? by codr7 on Monday June 03, 2019 @03:07PM (#20086990)
You are missing the point.

I'm not saying a more humane society would cure existing mental illness, though I'm sure it would help.

The point is that most mental illness is a product of the society we live in, and the long term solution is fixing that rather than medicating the symptoms.

Re:Mental illness: is there a global epidemic? by asveikau on Monday June 03, 2019 @03:12PM (#20087066)
There are a lot of factors. Stress and trauma. Genetics and heredity. Some degree of randomness. I think you are onto something but over-simplify.
Re:Mental illness: is there a global epidemic? by codr7 on Monday June 03, 2019 @08:06PM (#20090397)
Trust me, there's nothing simple about taking this stance and pointing out the big elephant in the room.

Blaming chaos or genetics, that's how you over-simplify.

Re:Mental illness: is there a global epidemic? by asveikau on Monday June 03, 2019 @08:30PM (#20090577)
Genetics is not the only factor, but it is a huge one, not to be ignored. I suppose you think people talk about terms like "family history of mental illness" just for fun?
Re:Mental illness: is there a global epidemic? by Retra on Monday June 03, 2019 @05:09PM (#20088815)
What do you mean "most"? What kinds of mental illnesses are you referring to here?
Re:Mental illness: is there a global epidemic? by codr7 on Monday June 03, 2019 @08:04PM (#20090384)
I mean most, that's about as specific as it makes sense to be since the definition keeps morphing to hook an ever growing part of the population into the profit-machine.
Re:Mental illness: is there a global epidemic? by asveikau on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @11:28AM (#20095900)
When I said that the sufferers of mental illness objectively do suffer, you did not seem to have a problem and you said that society is the primary cause. (And explicitly not a hereditary disposition, as is generally believed to be a factor.)

Now you seem to be suggesting the conditions are expanding, as if invented, to serve a profit machine.

This all suggests to me that your real opinion is that the illnesses don't exist.

Re:Mental illness: is there a global epidemic? by codr7 on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @08:46AM (#20103793)
All I ever said was that most mental illness is a product of society. Anything beyond that is a product of your imagination. If you're going to actively avoid truth by taking every chance to derail the discussion, why even bother?
Re:Mental illness: is there a global epidemic? by Retra on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:57AM (#20095623)
But you seem to be morphing the definition in order to sculpt your narrative, which is why I'm asking you to nail it down.