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Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by zepto on Monday June 03, 2019 @02:49PM (#20086735)
If the App Store is forced open, say goodbye to privacy and security on iOS.
Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by JumpCrisscross on Monday June 03, 2019 @02:53PM (#20086808)
> If the App Store is forced open, say goodbye to privacy and security on iOS

There are shades of grey between "Apple takes 30%, gets to reject apps for any or no reason, and gets to auto-install Apple Music in competition with Spotify" and flipping the App Store to the Android model.

Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by zepto on Monday June 03, 2019 @03:19PM (#20087150)
Apple has never rejected an app for no reason.

If apple was constrained from shipping apps that have competitors, they would effectively be prevented from shipping any apps at all.

Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by ceejayoz on Monday June 03, 2019 @03:39PM (#20087523)
> Apple has never rejected an app for no reason.

Sure they have.

https://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-app-rejections-2009-1...

> Why did the folks at Tweetie add swear words to their program? Actually, they didn't. But something crude happened to be trending on Twitter at the time the app was submitted for review.

Or Google Voice:

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-blocks-google-voice-app-for-...

Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by zepto on Monday June 03, 2019 @03:51PM (#20087688)
Nope. Not for no reason. By mistake, for sure, and in both cases the mistake was rectified.
Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by tomatotomato37 on Monday June 03, 2019 @05:33PM (#20089069)
You know if you reframe it as moving to a Windows/desktop model instead of moving to an Android model that could be seen as a positive. I like that I can install some obscure weekend GitHub project to do some task for me without having to fight my own OS over it
Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by r00fus on Monday June 03, 2019 @11:42PM (#20091651)
Sorry I left the Windows model 10 years ago mainly because of downsides any process easily metastasizing into an exploit vector.

Walled gardens have less thugs and shady alleys.

Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by anbop on Monday June 03, 2019 @02:53PM (#20086795)
Why? Apple doesn’t vet apps for privacy or security. The API surface is what affects these.
Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by freehunter on Monday June 03, 2019 @03:50PM (#20087685)
They absolutely do. Every permission you request has to have a valid justification and the user can only be asked when the permission is actually needed. The API allows you to specify every single permission and require them at app launch, it's the human reviewer who makes sure they're being used appropriately.

I say this as someone who has had apps denied by reviews for requesting a permission that was not needed inside of the version of the app I submitted to the store. They absolutely do review and vet apps for privacy and security.

Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by shuckles on Monday June 03, 2019 @02:57PM (#20086866)
APIs that depend on policy to prevent abuse will now just not be available at all.
Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by anbop on Monday June 03, 2019 @03:07PM (#20086992)
As it should be. Apple doesn’t have the ability to verify what you do with the data that gets to your app, so they should not pretend to be able to certify it.
Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by nemothekid on Monday June 03, 2019 @03:26PM (#20087271)
What? Apple, today, has enforced the ability to ensure that a flashlight app isn't vacuuming up your location data.
Re:U.S. Justice Dept Considering Apple Probe: Sources by saagarjha on Monday June 03, 2019 @03:08PM (#20087013)
See: macOS.