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Re:California is cracking down on the gig economy by jlarocco on Saturday June 01, 2019 @02:41PM (#20070732)
That's orthogonal to whether the workers are contractors or employees.

Most companies don't let their employees work such flexible hours, but there's no reason why they couldn't.

Re:California is cracking down on the gig economy by Zak on Saturday June 01, 2019 @02:46PM (#20070758)
> there's no reason why they couldn't.

Yes there is. Workers compensation insurance and other benefits have significant fixed costs per employee. If someone is treated as an employee, they'll be required to work a minimum number of hours to cover those costs.

Re:California is cracking down on the gig economy by cortesoft on Saturday June 01, 2019 @03:14PM (#20070946)
That seems like a failure of the insurance market more than anything else. It seems like insurance companies are using employee count as a proxy for hours worked... is there really that much of an increase risk for 4 people working 2 hours each vs one person working 8? Maybe, but we should be able to price that risk and allow a company to insure people per hour.
Re:California is cracking down on the gig economy by pishpash on Saturday June 01, 2019 @03:48PM (#20071194)
Or, you can just pay them what their market salary is in cash including what would have gone into insurance, and let them figure it out themselves. Why are you trying to overcomplicate things?
Re:California is cracking down on the gig economy by CryptoPunk on Sunday June 02, 2019 @01:26PM (#20076750)
>>Maybe, but we should be able to price that risk and allow a company to insure people per hour.

In many states regulations prevent customizing employee insurance packages to that extent. There are cookie cutter obligations that employers have to meet regardless of the hours an employee works.

Gig economy jobs get around the inefficiencies imposed by labor regulations.

Re:California is cracking down on the gig economy by jlarocco on Sunday June 02, 2019 @07:32PM (#20079149)
Ideally, yes, but that's not how it works in general.

It's not unusual for some departments (like HR) to operate at a loss, with the costs covered by other parts of the business, or for one product to be a loss leader that guides customers to more profitable products and services.

In any case, the problem of covering those costs doesn't go away by making the employee a contractor, but it pushes the cost off to the worker.

Re:California is cracking down on the gig economy by supercanuck on Saturday June 01, 2019 @03:52PM (#20071223)
Worker's compensation in Washington state is paid by the hour.

it is a unit cost, not a fixed cost.

Re:California is cracking down on the gig economy by pishpash on Saturday June 01, 2019 @07:03PM (#20072305)
And what is a unit of work? Is it the CPU time of the app? Good luck defining it.