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Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by _7siz on Friday May 31, 2019 @06:19PM (#20065553)
Accidents can happen. Don't really blame Digital Ocean for the accidental locking but this response is insane: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D76ocofXoAY_xB5.png
Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by lone_haxx0r on Friday May 31, 2019 @07:38PM (#20066081)
DO has shown that their service is simply not suitable for some use cases: those that impose an "unreasonable" load on their infraestructure.

Even worse: they don't explicitly state what is considered "unreasonable". So, if your business is serious, you have to assume the worst-case scenario: DO can't be used for anything

Conclusion: Digital Ocean is just for testing, playing around, not suitable for production.

Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by jeremyjh on Friday May 31, 2019 @08:28PM (#20066283)
> Conclusion: Digital Ocean is just for testing, playing around, not suitable for production.

I think that's always been the standard position most people take. DO, Linode, etc are for personal side projects, hosting community websites, forums etc. They are not for running a real business on. Some people do, sure but if hosting cost is really that big a portion of your total budget you probably don't have a real business model yet anyway.

Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by ryacko on Friday May 31, 2019 @08:46PM (#20066357)
I am of the impression that people rent cloud services because they can expense the cost to someone else or because of an inability to plan long term or a need of low latency.
Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by rootusrootus on Friday May 31, 2019 @06:55PM (#20065829)
That's the kind of response you only send when you're convinced the customer is actually nefarious and you don't care about losing them. I wonder if there is any missing backstory here or if it really is just a case of mistaken analysis.
Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by mr_toad on Friday May 31, 2019 @07:26PM (#20066029)
> Don't really blame Digital Ocean for the accidental locking

I find it concerning that they have such a low threshold for triggering a lock. 10 droplets is hardly cloud scale.

Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by lbotos on Saturday June 01, 2019 @12:37AM (#20067268)
Used to work at Linode, let's flip this on it's head:

-When the majority of abuse support dealt with was people angrily calling and asking about the fraudulent charges on their cards for dozens of Lie-nodes you consider putting caps in place to reduce support burden and reduce chargebacks.

At the time at Linode, if it was a known customer, we could easily and quickly raise that limit and life is good.

I've always wondered how Amazon dealt with fraud/abuse at their scale.

I don't think DO was wrong here to have a lock, but the post lock procedure seemed to be the problem.

Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by Axsuul on Friday May 31, 2019 @06:52PM (#20065811)
That response is ice cold. Reminds me of suspension emails Amazon sends out to their FBA sellers.
Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by PixyMisa on Friday May 31, 2019 @08:59PM (#20066415)
That's the sort of response you get from Twitter or Facebook, where you are not paying for the service.
Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by bogomipz on Friday May 31, 2019 @09:46PM (#20066617)
Agreed. I actually had to reread that a few times because I could not believe that someone actually approved of that text.

That text suggests larger organizational problems within the company.

Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by Twirrim on Saturday June 01, 2019 @01:19AM (#20067396)
If you explain why, you give the actual abusers clues as to how to avoid detection. It's common place behaviour for companies to _not_ reveal details.
Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by bogomipz on Thursday June 06, 2019 @02:14PM (#20117310)
You can provide a helpful message with options for recourse without giving abuser's "clues." These are not somehow mutually exclusive. By your logic it makes sense to punish a marginal element at the expense of the majority.
Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by crehn on Saturday June 01, 2019 @07:46AM (#20068722)
It's a spectrum; being opaque and stone-cold to that degree is shitty customer service.
Re:"DigitalOcean Killed Our Company" by chris11 on Friday May 31, 2019 @06:58PM (#20065846)
I think the major issue there is process and management related. The account should have been reviewed by someone with the authority to activate it, and it definitely shouldn't have been flagged a second time. But looks like DO thought the user was malicious, and issues raised by malicious users don't get much information. The response was horrible though.