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Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by Consultant32452 on Friday May 31, 2019 @12:28PM (#20062379)
I think education is going to radically change in the next decade or so. Online education is going to come up to par with the greatest of institutions. The missing link is the actual credential. The signal of the end of education as we knew it in the past is when a wealthy/powerful person comes out and endorses one of these things in a real way. For example, if Elon Musk comes out and says SpaceX considers a cert from $NetflixOfEducation as equal to an engineering degree from MIT on a resume... then it's all over. I believe this will certainly happen at some point, it's just a matter of when.
Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by nugget on Friday May 31, 2019 @12:41PM (#20062513)
Generally I agree with your view, but there are real hiring problems that have to be solved first.

>if Elon Musk comes out and says SpaceX considers a cert from $NetflixOfEducation as equal to an engineering degree from MIT on a resume... then it's all over.

If 50 developers apply for a job and 3 of them are from MIT and 47 are from lesser known schools, using the MIT signal as a filter is efficient. If $NetflixOfEducation is too accessible and half of the applicants have it, then it loses its value as a hiring signal. Of course there are other filters too. Previous employers is an important one. You can create comprehensive professional examinations like they do in medicine, where a passing grade is a major achievement. But these don't scale well because the more they scale the easier it is to cheat, especially if the risks of getting caught cheating are minor (i.e. there aren't previous barriers that must be overcome via investment of time in other institutions first).

The other dynamic of top schools is the networking effect. There is real value in concentrating thousands of the "best and brightest" together in one place and bouncing them off each other. It doesn't scale, which is both a problem (for qualified people who are excluded for whatever reason) and a benefit (for those who participate, there is value in the scarcity).

Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by derangedHorse on Sunday June 02, 2019 @01:26PM (#20076747)
As someone who's had the opportunity to go through a pile of 100+ resumes and have met people who have gone to Ivy League (or other top technical schools like Stanford, UC Berkeley, MIT, etc) I definitely do not put too much weight on education (even for new grads). As a software engineer I'd rather put weight on their projects and accomplishments. I've seen a lot of students from prestigious schools with high GPAs who completely bomb the in person interviews.
Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by antoinevg on Friday May 31, 2019 @02:27PM (#20063644)
> If $NetflixOfEducation is too accessible and half of the applicants have it, then it loses its value as a hiring signal.

Only for companies who hire for signals.

For companies that hire for throughput this does not hold.

Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by tqi on Friday May 31, 2019 @03:47PM (#20064303)
I actually think it's a bit more complicated than that. For a large company trying to fill a ton of openings, I think where you went to college is actually an even more important filtering criteria (ie an Ivy League degree is almost an automatic pass from resume to phone screen), but the list of colleges that get a near automatic pass is larger.
Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by nugget on Friday May 31, 2019 @03:54PM (#20064354)
What do you mean by "throughput" and how do you measure it ahead of an interview? Given 50 resumes for an open position, how do you select whom to interview? Does your process scale to many dozens or hundreds of open positions per year?
Re:I Grew Up Gifted, but My Life Didn’t Turn Out the Way I E... by mnky9800n on Saturday June 01, 2019 @06:04AM (#20068436)
People have been saying this about most new technology for a long time. Between the printing press and the television this isn't new. The University abides.