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Re:Ctrl Shift Face: A growing ‘deepfakes’ YouTube channel by saagarjha on Thursday May 30, 2019 @10:57AM (#20051850)
How does Truepic work? What's stopping me from spoofing sensor data on my client?
Re:Ctrl Shift Face: A growing ‘deepfakes’ YouTube channel by frosted-flakes on Thursday May 30, 2019 @11:19AM (#20052102)
Probably nothing. But it solves 99% of the problems it's meant to solve. Casual insurance fraud, for example.
Re:Ctrl Shift Face: A growing ‘deepfakes’ YouTube channel by munk-a on Thursday May 30, 2019 @02:23PM (#20054349)
Preventing casual insurance fraud and guarding against deep fakes are very different problems, with a very stark contrast in terms of the effort and technical aptitude available.

Occasionally a security minded computer savy person might pull one over on the insurance company - but most clients aren't going to have the expertise or dedication to correctness. To contrast that - the pool of people who would try and produce a deep fake, especially in the political realm, have already decided to invest a good amount of investigation and effort and are likely rather technically minded.

So this would stop the script-kiddie equivalent actor in the deep fake realm, but I am more concerned about dedicated nefarious actors.

Re:Ctrl Shift Face: A growing ‘deepfakes’ YouTube channel by atonalfreerider on Thursday May 30, 2019 @11:30AM (#20052218)
The point is to have an immutable source to compare against. If you suspect a video is faked, you can find the verified original video that was used to make the fake and compare against it.
Re:Ctrl Shift Face: A growing ‘deepfakes’ YouTube channel by xienze on Thursday May 30, 2019 @01:52PM (#20054012)
What if the fake video is the first one to be uploaded?
Re:Ctrl Shift Face: A growing ‘deepfakes’ YouTube channel by jakear on Thursday May 30, 2019 @02:03PM (#20054151)
That’s where they use their fancy computer vision software to determine if the source has been tampered with.
Re:Ctrl Shift Face: A growing ‘deepfakes’ YouTube channel by xienze on Thursday May 30, 2019 @02:09PM (#20054210)
And if they can’t determine that?
Re:Ctrl Shift Face: A growing ‘deepfakes’ YouTube channel by munk-a on Thursday May 30, 2019 @02:26PM (#20054390)
I think this is sort of where we realize that Oscar Wilde was actually the democratic candidate in the 2016 election - falsely attributed quotes have gotten out of hand and even relatively reputable sources have made this mistake... I suspect the same will be true of videos soon, your trust in the accuracy of the information will be solely tied to your trust in the organization - if you don't trust NYT you won't trust videos you see there and declare them "fake news", ditto for Fox and everyone else.

This is leading society to a very dangerous place where the truth is becoming a matter of opinion.

Re:Ctrl Shift Face: A growing ‘deepfakes’ YouTube channel by groby_b on Thursday May 30, 2019 @03:03PM (#20054778)
We've been there. It led to impartial professionals who, in person, report what they witnessed, and who made a career out of being truthful and exact.

The Bard is back again!

Re:Ctrl Shift Face: A growing ‘deepfakes’ YouTube channel by theptip on Thursday May 30, 2019 @03:30PM (#20055046)
Yes, it's an arms race. Surely this is obviously the case?

"What if the government can't determine if a 100 dollar bill is fake?"

Answer to both questions: those who have a vested interest in detecting fakes spend more money on fake-detection mechanisms.

Re:Ctrl Shift Face: A growing ‘deepfakes’ YouTube channel by SubiculumCode on Thursday May 30, 2019 @01:02PM (#20053348)
This is why I think a dolution will involve hardware signing, and maybe some integration with a.photoediting suite