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Re:Why natural cycles only play small role in rate of global... by breakyerself on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @12:29PM (#20031683)
The planets been breaking temperature records like hotcakes while solar irradiance has been declining for decades. There is zero evidence for magnetosphere driven climate change. What you've written is just some sciencey sounding BS that rationalizes an irrational position.
Re:Why natural cycles only play small role in rate of global... by instantwhat on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @02:31PM (#20032941)
If, tomorrow, NASA, NOAA, and the UN IPCC held a joint press conference to announce surprising new evidence which indicated that anthropogenic effects on the climate were minimal, that we could not noticeably affect the climate, regardless of our emissions, and that the climate was essentially out of our control, what would your reaction be? Would that be good news or bad news? Why?
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Re:Why natural cycles only play small role in rate of global... by instantwhat on Wednesday May 29, 2019 @10:19AM (#20040470)
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. What I mean is, if these organizations made such an announcement, and assuming that they were correct, what would you think? Would that be good news or bad news? Why?
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Re:Why natural cycles only play small role in rate of global... by instantwhat on Thursday May 30, 2019 @07:27AM (#20050093)
> Or are you trying to reveal some sort of hidden value judgment or bias or something related to the politics of global warming?

Mainly that, although you aren't the person I posed the question to, and it may not apply to you. Assuming you're being sincere, it doesn't appear to.

Since we've come this far, if I may continue asking you:

Since you seem to sincerely believe that AGW theory is soundly supported by basic science, what do you make of the many reputable, accomplished scientists, physicists, etc. who do not believe that it is soundly supported by basic science?

What do you make of the former IPCC scientists who have whistleblown on the IPCC scientists' political bias and resigned in protest?

What do you make of Cook, et al's fraudulent "97% consensus" paper?

I appreciate your thoughtful discussion.

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Re:Why natural cycles only play small role in rate of global... by dang on Saturday June 01, 2019 @06:54PM (#20072245)
We need you to stop posting flamewar comments to Hacker News if you don't want us to ban you again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Why natural cycles only play small role in rate of global... by instantwhat on Saturday June 01, 2019 @07:44PM (#20072510)
I haven't been banned from HN before, but I'm not surprised that some of my comments resemble ones from those you have banned.

Help me understand, please: what about that comment makes it a flamewar comment? I was attempting to engage him in serious discussion, and he offered voluminous nonsense in return. Is it verboten to point that out? Where did I cross your line?

By the way, I recently exchanged a few comments with you about HN's political bias, and you asked for examples. This submission's comments, and the flagging of my comment, is a good example of what I was talking about. There is a clear bias in that comments espousing a certain view are downvoted and flagged, even without violating the guidelines.

It seems clear that you quickly respond to comments which are flagged, even those flagged by the person being responded to. If I may ask, since I haven't seen this question asked or answered before: do you also police downvotes and flags? i.e. when people downvote, kill, and flag comments that do not deserve to be, do you correct it?

It doesn't appear so to me, and that creates an additional avenue for bias to be expressed: since only users with certain karma scores can vouch for wrongly flagged comments, it's easy for users with high scores to wrongly flag comments from users whose scores do not allow them to protest.

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Re:Why natural cycles only play small role in rate of global... by dang on Sunday June 02, 2019 @02:54AM (#20073954)
Flamewar comments like this will get you banned here, regardless of how badly someone else posted. Please don't give in to the temptation on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Why natural cycles only play small role in rate of global... by breakyerself on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @03:45PM (#20033630)
I suppose it would be nice to know we can worry less about how we impact things, but I don't see what the point is in wishful thinking.
Re:Why natural cycles only play small role in rate of global... by briantakita on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @05:11PM (#20034465)
Actually, global cooling & a wet spring means decreased crop yields around the world. This is a serious matter that we need to properly prepare for. Not be distracted by pseudoscience of "Anthropogenic Global Warming".

We are seeing an increase of Earthquakes & Volcanic Eruptions, driven by space weather. We need to prepare accordingly. The next few winters will continue to get colder.

Re:Why natural cycles only play small role in rate of global... by briantakita on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @01:02PM (#20032018)
Except the records being broken are low temperature records. They aren't actually records in the geological sense, just measurement records in modern times. The "year without a summer" was colder for example.

The magnetosphere does not drive the climate. The magnetosphere protects Earth from space weather, which includes Cosmic radiation, Coronal holes, Coronal mass ejections, etc.

Are you seriously claiming that the sun has no effect on the climate? Are you claiming that the sun does not have cycles? And you call me irrational...

Re:Why natural cycles only play small role in rate of global... by breakyerself on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @03:51PM (#20033679)
>"Except the records being broken are low temperature records. "

The last 5 years are the warmest 5 years in recorded history. Possibly the warmest in 110,000 years. It's also exactly how warm scientists predicted it would be with the emissions scenario that played out. I don't know what stupid blog you get your info from, but you should stop.

>"The magnetosphere protects Earth from space weather, which includes Cosmic radiation, Coronal holes, Coronal mass ejections, etc."

There is no evidence that cosmic or solar rays have any effect on climate. We have a good geologic record of the behavior of the magnetosphere. It doesn't correlate at all with climate data. This is from the psuedoscience blogosphere. Not actual science.

The sun affects climate, but it's variability isn't as strong as the forcing from co2 and none of the warming from the last 30 years can be from the sun since the sun has been in a cooling phase.