Re:WhatsApp users will start seeing in-app ads within ‘Statu...
by brianacton on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @09:58AM
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I remember this pretty clearly. I always liked the $0.99 per year model because it was pure and simple. However, it was a three way decision with Mark for it, Jan somewhat on the fence, and me against. The primary argument being that payment was artificially hindering growth. Frankly, our growth was just fine at the time. History tells us how the decision landed.
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Re:WhatsApp users will start seeing in-app ads within ‘Statu...
by jscheel on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @10:11AM
(#20030155)
Just for clarity, you liked the $0.99 model, but you were against it at the time because it would hinder growth, or you were against the idea of adding advertising once WhatsApp was acquired by Facebook?
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by ianopolous on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @10:40AM
(#20030548)
I think Brian means that he was against moving to advertising, and Mark was for it.
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by skohan on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @10:12AM
(#20030174)
What was the margin on that $0.99 per year? I guess that was before you could send media?
Re:WhatsApp users will start seeing in-app ads within ‘Statu...
by inapis on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @10:36AM
(#20030497)
Was 0.99 per year even profitable?
Re:WhatsApp users will start seeing in-app ads within ‘Statu...
by Nextgrid on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @11:05AM
(#20030833)
Economies of scale would make it profitable considering WhatsApp doesn’t even have to host anything, just relay messages, and since it’s a private platform there are no moderation expenses either.
Re:WhatsApp users will start seeing in-app ads within ‘Statu...
by arthurcolle on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @03:30PM
(#20033480)
I don't think that's its not hosting anything...
http://www.erlang-factory.com/upload/presentations/558/efsf2...
Re:WhatsApp users will start seeing in-app ads within ‘Statu...
by 0b0001 on Wednesday May 29, 2019 @12:14PM
(#20042007)
You can share files with a maximum size of 100MB. And if I'm not mistaken, those are hosted and available without expiry date.
Re:WhatsApp users will start seeing in-app ads within ‘Statu...
by lozenge on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @12:35PM
(#20031751)
No, considering the development and testing costs (it works on the cheapest Indian phones), abuse prevention, etc.
(Cue "I haven't used any new feature since e2e encryption")
Re:WhatsApp users will start seeing in-app ads within ‘Statu...
by mindcrash on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @01:28PM
(#20032314)
You guys really should take what you learned building WhatsApp and start over.
Make it subscription based, with a low bar of entry ($10 or so per month), don't do ads, don't do data harvesting (unless required by law enforcement) and/or "science" (for profit), guarantee freedom of speech (as long as said speech is protected by law, ofcourse) -- in other words: don't become Zuck -- and you will outcompete Facebook come 2025.
Re:WhatsApp users will start seeing in-app ads within ‘Statu...
by option_greek on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @02:29PM
(#20032927)
10$ month as low barrier of entry for a messaging app is unthinkable for most of the users. Especially for those regions that WhatsApp serves now.
Re:WhatsApp users will start seeing in-app ads within ‘Statu...
by jawilson2 on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @03:32PM
(#20033496)
There is a small handful of things will pay more than $10/month for: my mortgage, car, and utilities. We cancelled Amazon prime when it hit that, and will cancel Netflix when it hits that. I will not pay for text messaging; I'll happily continue using Android messaging instead.
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by chillacy on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @09:34PM
(#20036093)
$120 a year when all the competitors are free?
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by burntoutcase on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @04:54PM
(#20034300)
Ten bucks a month? For instant messaging? Did you think this through?
Re:WhatsApp users will start seeing in-app ads within ‘Statu...
by toper-centage on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @06:02PM
(#20034848)
I mean, that's like.. The price of a pound of bananas right?. /s
Some people are delusional.