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Re:Eating Too Much Rice Almost Doomed Japan's Imperial Navy by alkonaut on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @03:11AM (#20027904)
Was there no source of Vitamin C that was cheaper, less perishable, and more easily available in Northern Europe in all seasons, than citrus? I don't know how exotic lemons were at the time, but I'd guess loading up on lots of citrus in a Northern European port could be rather expensive?
Re:Eating Too Much Rice Almost Doomed Japan's Imperial Navy by barry-cotter on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @03:34AM (#20028013)
Sauerkraut. Any kind of fermented vegetable would do but you really need something with relatively high vitamin c content and it’s really easy to destroy.
Re:Eating Too Much Rice Almost Doomed Japan's Imperial Navy by chewz on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @04:59AM (#20028378)
Fermented cucumbers are used in winter as source of vitamine C all the way from river Oder to Kunming in China. As are other pickles like betrot.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickled_cucumber

In warmer climate like Mediteranian children were given wine in winter for that reason.

Re:Eating Too Much Rice Almost Doomed Japan's Imperial Navy by hvidgaard on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @03:28AM (#20027982)
For Northern Europe at that time I would think that kale would be the best source. You can harvest fresh kale for most of the year. No idea how the vitamin c holds up when you dry it. I'm unsure if sea buckthorn was growing in Northern Europe at that time, but if it was it would be a near perfect source, save for the trouble of picking them. Today you could eat Rosehip too, but that plant is so invasive that it needs to be seriously kept at bay.
Re:Eating Too Much Rice Almost Doomed Japan's Imperial Navy by nitwit005 on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @04:35AM (#20028269)
Remember that, without understanding the chemistry, running an experiment was difficult. Aside from the expense, I doubt people would be enthused about doing trials of alternative foods when people would get scurvy if the food turned out not to work as well.
Re:Eating Too Much Rice Almost Doomed Japan's Imperial Navy by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @06:50AM (#20028842)
> without understanding the chemistry, running an experiment was difficult

Also, without the scientific method, the concept of an experiment could look to an outsider like recklessness (or buffoonery).

Re:Eating Too Much Rice Almost Doomed Japan's Imperial Navy by jhellan on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @10:02AM (#20030074)
Scurvygrass (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochlearia_officinalis)

Kept many people alive who had been marooned over the winter in Svalbard and other places in the Arctic. Also grows in cooler climates in Europe

Re:Eating Too Much Rice Almost Doomed Japan's Imperial Navy by brazzy on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @08:50AM (#20029475)
Raw (or lightly-cooked) meat also has a lot of vitamin C.
Re:Eating Too Much Rice Almost Doomed Japan's Imperial Navy by sonthonax on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @03:51AM (#20028087)
Yes, sauerkraut.