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Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by hnlmorg on Monday May 27, 2019 @07:08AM (#20021150)
For every example of scrum operating badly there are examples of scrum working well. The common denominator in all of those situations - good and bad - is the project and middle/upper management.
Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by etripe on Monday May 27, 2019 @07:29AM (#20021255)
In business process analysis, when a process is dependent on individual people, you don't have a mature process but an ad hoc process.

In other words, Scrum methodology in itself is not mature as a methodology and depends on individual fiat, just like any project that doesn't have any process at all.

The only tangible benefit to Scrum might be paying lip service to development departments while firmly retaining the status quo.

Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by hnlmorg on Monday May 27, 2019 @07:57AM (#20021394)
Scrum is no more or less dependant on individual people as any other methodology.

The rest of your post is just warping your initial conjecture to arrive at conclusions you'd already decided upon. I neither agree with those conclusions nor the chain of twisted logic you used to arrive that.

I'm not going to stand on a soapbox and sing for the glory of scrums. People - like yourself it seems - can get very tribal when talking about such things. Which is as weird to read as it is pointless for you to argue. In my experience leading different teams using different methodologies, the thing that really makes the big noticeable impact is people and not methodologies. If you work in a blame culture or have colleagues in your team who don't follow process - then whatever process you put in place will be undermined at every opportunity regardless of it's methodology. However if you work in an environment where people respect one another and want to collaborate in getting work done, then you pick a methodology that works best for the day to day work (eg project work or support operations) and for the way people like their work organised. All the rest of the arguments are superfluous.

Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by matwood on Monday May 27, 2019 @09:07AM (#20021852)
> good and bad - is the project and middle/upper management.

Yep. People do not realize that the whole company has to adopt agile/scrum for it to work. It's a shift that many companies can not or will not make. They are tied to fixed deadline, fixed scope for various reasons.

Re:Scrum is fragile, not Agile by pushpop on Monday May 27, 2019 @12:59PM (#20023530)
I mostly agree with you but I wouldn’t go so far as to say the whole company has to adopt it. However you do certainly need the support from the wider company. I’ve seen scrum work really well despite waterfall being the predominant methodology in that business - there people were happy to embrace the preferred working styles of whichever team they had to liaise with. I’ve also worked in places where scrum failed badly despite the CEO pushing for it. Those places usually suffered from a blame culture that was also the CEOs doing and that blame culture meant that everyone was spending their time working against the best interest of any of the other teams. By “teams” I mean project managers, sales guys, support or operations teams (if they differ from your developers and/or DevOps), finance staff, directors/upper management and even your own paying clients (if you’re a hired service) etc.

I’ve noticed comments for and against scrum are often so focused on the technical aspects of the methodology that they overlook the human aspect. Which matters more in my opinion.