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Re:Is reason the slave of the passions? by adrianratnapala on Monday May 27, 2019 @01:39AM (#20019698)
> It's an empirical fact that we must act on our desires;

Is it?

> when I examine my actions closely I notice that all of them can be traced back to some desire or combination of desires.

But when I introspect, the opposite happens. When I examine my desires closely, they disappear and I am left with "well I often engage in X, Y and Z goal-seeking behaviours."

Re:Is reason the slave of the passions? by sooheon on Monday May 27, 2019 @03:03AM (#20020033)
If you grant that motivation for actions have two components, causal and stochastic, and ignore the stochastic element as just error, I could see labeling all causal impetuses as "desires" at some level. Anything you do, you do because the conscious you--or some lower level process that is a part of you--"wanted" it that way, give or take some random noise.
Re:Is reason the slave of the passions? by n4r9 on Monday May 27, 2019 @08:04AM (#20021435)
Indeed, a desire is ultimately the habit of seeking a particular goal. The comment you replied to stands regardless.
Re:Is reason the slave of the passions? by ibeckermayer on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @02:25AM (#20027670)
Don't “goal-seeking behaviors” imply desire? I can’t imagine a goal I might seek that isn’t a desire itself or connected closely to a desire.