As far as I am aware the likes of Apple are still selling in China and even companies that are blocked etc. it's different vs the U.S. ban, which also affects Huawei in the EU etc.

I am an EU citizen and if I want to buy Huawei products, I don't want the U.S. to tell me not to, especially since you seem to conveniently forget that the U.S. has led many interventionist wars in order to forcibly open markets in other countries to its goods, so you don't have much moral ground to stand on here.

Additionally, the U.S. is also imposing tariffs on the EU and being abusive around the world, (Iran etc.) in general. The world is watching and American credibility is being eroded with moves like these, that's for sure.

I really don’t see what point you are trying to make here, and how it is connected to anything the person you were replying to was talking about (which is industry politics). If you want to take the discussion into that direction we can go further back, and America wouldn’t even have existed if it weren’t for Europeans colonizing it (which, of course, is an equally absurd statement to make)

One thing we all can agree is that America is run by idiots now. Even if they tackle legitimate issues they do it in a way that is stupid.

International trade agreements can be renegotiated and confrontations can be managed professionally. The US would get much more done if it would have sane leadership.

> Let china continue to block mostly everything except theirs

But that's not what's happening. China just makes laws that require vendors to comply with censorship. You know, Germany does the same, only on different topics. Google and others have then decided not to do business in China, they weren't blocked.

The trade problem with China isn't about blocking companies, it's about state subsidies that China gives to key industries that are perceived as unfair.