Re:First American Financial Corp. Leaked Hundreds of Million...
by cm2187 on Friday May 24, 2019 @10:24PM
(#20006740)
It's not really security through obscurity. In these case I understand the ids where related to data that the company was making available to users through email links. A cryptographically secure 128bit UUID is impossible to guess, no more than a cryptographic access token. Now of course, you would probably rather want to have an authentication scheme on top of that, but that comes at a support cost in term of customers loosing their passwords, locking themselves out of their account, etc. And it is not clear you have increased security as people re-use passwords.
Then of course there is the issue that email is for the most part un-encrypted (or encrypted without validating certificates).
Re:First American Financial Corp. Leaked Hundreds of Million...
by prophesi on Saturday May 25, 2019 @09:12PM
(#20012529)
It's still an access control issue in that case. The user should never be aware of the UUID's. Only the backend should deal with it. If you have a _public_ API that deals with UUIDs, therein lies the issue.
And a side note: I wouldn't trust that the prng for your UUIDs are cryptographically secure. That's not a part of the spec.
It's not about using hard-to-guess UUIDs[0], but restricting access to the underlying data[1].
[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_control