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Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by wbronitsky on Friday May 24, 2019 @11:55AM (#20002820)
If you are a citizen and have not been disenfranchised, and I grant you that many fall outside of these buckets, you absolutely have a say. That say is that you can elect whomever you want to decide these things for you. It is the central mechanism in a representative democracy.
Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by pingucrimson on Friday May 24, 2019 @12:09PM (#20002968)
Re representative democracies, why are opinions on disparate issues like the economy, abortion, climate change, etc. all packaged into one party? At least 99% of people won't find a party that agrees with them on every single issue, so it feels like there should be a better system.
Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by mrguyorama on Friday May 24, 2019 @12:12PM (#20003002)
Because the US has first past the post. Sure you could vote for someone who matches every single one of your ideologies, but the chance that they win is zero.
Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by TeMPOraL on Saturday May 25, 2019 @05:16AM (#20007916)
Is there a country that does it better? I can't think of one. Voting on people seems what's being done everywhere, and the source of this problem.
Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by craftyguy on Friday May 24, 2019 @04:06PM (#20004845)
Ergo: need a better system
Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by cr0sh on Friday May 24, 2019 @04:51PM (#20005171)
But first past the post already works...

...for the people who would need to vote to change it.

They ain't gunna change something that will work against them after they change it...

Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by craftyguy on Friday May 24, 2019 @07:36PM (#20006185)
Yea, you nailed it.
Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by wbronitsky on Friday May 24, 2019 @12:37PM (#20003218)
I'm not sure you are attacking representative democracy, but instead are attacking the US two party system. I'm def not going to argue against you on that. Just wanted to say that in a representative democracy, one does have a say in policy. I do very much agree that the US tries to give us all as little of a say as possible, as the "adults" (read: billionaires) decide things for us
Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by drewmol on Friday May 24, 2019 @01:25PM (#20003584)
Unfortunately, in the US, we've allowed our representatives to enact a hard cap on the number of representatives. So the representative you elect decides these thing for an increasingly larger number of citizens as population increases. So while you have a say, the weight of that say on choosing a representative is ever decreasing.
Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by kevin_thibedeau on Friday May 24, 2019 @04:28PM (#20004992)
Gerrymander strategy dictates that you want as few urban districts as possible to maintain rural power. Raising the caps would weaken the benefit of packing opposition voters into fewer districts.
Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by drewmol on Friday May 24, 2019 @07:14PM (#20006098)
Yes removing the limit put on in the early 20th century would have broad ranging consequences, most of them would be to the detrement of the existing representatives.
Re:Maker of US border's license-plate scanning tech ransacke... by inetknght on Friday May 24, 2019 @12:00PM (#20002866)
...and then the person we voted for doesn't win the election and the person who does win the election doesn't listen to the citizens they're supposed to represent.