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Re:After 15 Years, the Pirate Bay Still Can’t Be Killed by imiric on Thursday May 23, 2019 @01:31PM (#19993869)
> Those who don’t have paid subscriptions probably aren’t that interested in music in the first place.

Or aren't interested in supporting closed corporations that benefit financially more than the artists who produced the music in the first place. It's a predatory system trying to get grandfathered in from the (g)olden music industry days, and to be fair involves bigger fish than streaming services (labels, promoters, etc.).

I'd provide a counter argument putting blame on artists: those who aren't selling and promoting themselves via a personal website or websites like Bandcamp probably aren't that interested in monetizing their music career.

As someone still paying monthly subscriptions to streaming services, I've recently begun to purchase more DRM-free music in lossless format. I get the best possible quality of audio, directly support the artist (or more directly than via streaming), and I get to keep the music indefinitely, as long as I can manage the storage requirements. It's not cheap nor easy, but I believe it's the fair approach for consuming music, and look forward to the day I disable my streaming subscriptions.

Re:After 15 Years, the Pirate Bay Still Can’t Be Killed by H1Supreme on Thursday May 23, 2019 @01:49PM (#19994091)
> I get the best possible quality of audio, directly support the artist (or more directly than via streaming), and I get to keep the music indefinitely, as long as I can manage the storage requirements

This is why I love Bandcamp. Lossless format for my good stereo at home, mp3's for my car, and streaming when I'm at work.

Re:After 15 Years, the Pirate Bay Still Can’t Be Killed by vonseel on Monday May 27, 2019 @12:32AM (#20019463)
Hm, I understand your perspective but it's really a different topic altogether. "Paid subscriptions" may have been an accidentally narrow group of people, but I just can't imagine many houses with some discretionary income that aren't subscribed to Amazon Prime or at least one Spotify / Apple Music / Tidal / etc. account. That's probably naive of me.

There is a whole class of people who are content listening to whatever is on the radio or the same 20 year old CD's they've had forever without ever seeking new music or even knowing what's playing. That's really what I meant by people without paid subscriptions not caring.

I prefer the subscription model. I rarely get hooked on an album, but when I do, I'll listen to it on repeat for 1- a few months - and then I'll might not ever listen to it much again. These albums might be the only ones that make sense for me to buy (and even though, maybe not - I might hate it in 3 months - but let's consider the expense like a circus ticket or something, pay to experience pleasure).

On the other hand, a bunch of the stuff I hear on Spotify, I never seek again, it's just background noise. Sometimes this turns into a relationship and they win a fan, sometimes they don't.

The best way to support artists is by attending shows.

I have been hooked on Mac Miller's album Swimming for the past few weeks. Sadly, he passed, but he's the first artist I've ordered merch for, maybe ever, because I liked the album so much. Highly recommended. Start on track one and play through.

Re:After 15 Years, the Pirate Bay Still Can’t Be Killed by mAEStro-paNDa on Thursday May 23, 2019 @01:45PM (#19994038)
Going the independent route as a musician doesn't necessarily mean they'll successfully monetize their music. While more artists are doing this, there's still a lot of the old "looking to get signed" mentality. I agree with your post, but I wanted to point out that someone not taking the more independent routes doesn't necessarily mean they aren't interested in monetizing their work.
Re:After 15 Years, the Pirate Bay Still Can’t Be Killed by hackeridiot on Thursday May 23, 2019 @02:56PM (#19994760)
AFAIK, bands don't make a lot of money from selling albums anyway. Most of their income comes from ticket sales and tour merch.
Re:After 15 Years, the Pirate Bay Still Can’t Be Killed by HeadsUpHigh on Friday May 24, 2019 @02:58PM (#20004336)
Which doesn't have to be the case if they take the self-publication route.