The U.S. federal gov’t, via HIPAA, took a stance on what health providers could do with patient data, rather than settling for a stance of “just find the nearest hospital with your preferred terms and conditions” or “keep in mind you don’t need to see a doctor”

> you don't need to buy a tesla

> you don’t need to see a doctor

Totally ridiculous strawman.

I am not claiming tesla is the only one, i used that as an example. You are making the inverse claim that you cannot buy a non connected car with your "don't need to see a doctor" analogy.

Article is not about cars that "have computers and data" its about connected cars that are sharing personal information ( how fast we drive, where we live, how many children we have — even financial information ) with manufacturer.

Do you know what % of cars in the market today are sending this information back to manufacturer ?

FTA, it’s clear the author is talking about what they see as an impending issue:

> What carmakers are doing with the collected data isn’t clear. We know they use it to improve car performance and safety. And we know they have the ability to sell it to third parties they might choose. Indeed, Ford’s chief executive, Jim Hackett, has spoken in detail about the company’s plans to monetize car data.

i am ok with cars collecting metrics about my car and improving safety. But I am not ok with car collecting info about my children.

Author( and you ) are conflating all of it and calling it "data". I have no idea which cars companies are collecting data about my children. Do you?

Spinning this into "they are coming for your children" is totally disgusting.

Even the line you quoted is dishonest

> And we know they have the ability to sell it to third parties they might choose. Indeed, Ford’s chief executive, Jim Hackett, has spoken in detail about the company’s plans to monetize car data.

Here is the exact quote

"We know what people make. How do we know that? It's because they borrow money from us. And when you ask somebody what they make, we know where they work, you know. We know if they're married. We know how long they've lived in their house because these are all on the credit applications. We've never ever been challenged on how we use that. And that's the leverage we got here with the data."

This has nothing to do with data collected by cars. Yes loan applications data should be regulated for privacy but that irrelevant to topic under discussion. Loan application data is not "car data".

Also,Jim Hackett did not mention anything about selling data yet putting those to lines together and using the word 'Indeed' sounds like monetize here means ford plans to sell( info about your children) to third parties. Infact its already might be illegal to sell that data [1].

Why so dishonest?

1. https://www.fdic.gov/consumers/privacy/yourrights/

Well said!

> Lets talk about this when this is actually a thing.

Waiting until later will adversely affect many millions, potentially billions, of people.

doing it now will also adversely affect many millions, potentially billions, of people. Tesla relies on that data to improve their autonomous systems.

We don't even know what % of ppl are actually opposed to sharing this data. I've not heard many tesla owners complaining about this.

Making false equivalences between this and your personal health information and spreading fear is so counterproductive.