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Re:GDPR adtech complaints keep stacking up in Europe by ljm on Monday May 20, 2019 @01:42PM (#19962916)
I’d happily accept ads for things on the internet as long as they were relevant to the topic and non-intrusive. These sites do need to earn some money for the work they do and I can decide if that work is valuable or not by reading their articles or watching their videos. Just make the ad experience sensible instead of throwing shitty dark patterns and other things that interrupt the experience. Let me subscribe to a pure RSS feed or other lightweight experience I can pull into a reader.

At least then I’m actually choosing to receive ads. In return it would be nice to have a say in the sheer amount of attention grabbing advertising we’re subjected to in the physical realm. There is no consent there, and this advertising only serves the purpose of businesses selling stuff. Why can’t I charge a cost per view for everything shoved in my face on the way to work, or at the cinema, or on the train, or in any other situation where I’ve already handed over cash? My attention is a scarce resource that holds a lot of value to my friends, family, colleagues, and any other human being in my life. I’d love to paywall access to that.

In short though I believe there has to be a fundamental shift from the belief that ads, tracking, and shadow profiles are the path to profit in an increasingly connected world. Something about the relationship needs to change, maybe towards business-2-citizen instead of business-2-consumer.

Re:GDPR adtech complaints keep stacking up in Europe by Mirioron on Monday May 20, 2019 @01:48PM (#19963001)
>Why can’t I charge a cost per view for everything shoved in my face on the way to work, or at the cinema, or on the train, or in any other situation where I’ve already handed over cash?

Because you don't own whatever is being used to advertise. It's not your decision to make. They can charge you and then show you ads.

>In short though I believe there has to be a fundamental shift from the belief that ads, tracking, and shadow profiles are the path to profit in an increasingly connected world.

Belief doesn't mean anything. What matters is what pays the bills. If alternatives worked well, then I'm sure we'd have plenty of sites that would already be doing this. You could argue that crowdfunding is one such route, but I don't think that will ever work on a large scale. The amount of money required just isn't there.

The reason ad-tech is so common is because people are unwilling to pay any amount of money.

Re:GDPR adtech complaints keep stacking up in Europe by ericd on Monday May 20, 2019 @04:02PM (#19964522)
They demonstrably are willing to pay some amount of money - they already pay $40-100+/mo for internet access to their ISP to get access to the stuff online. What they're not willing to do is be nickel and dimed - even if the amount they spend is tiny, the mental overhead of a pay-as-you-go plan vs an unlimited plan is such that it makes the experience much less pleasant.
Re:GDPR adtech complaints keep stacking up in Europe by Mirioron on Monday May 20, 2019 @07:19PM (#19966259)
I don't think it follows that they are willing to pay some amount of money. Maybe they're willing to pay for something like Google, Wikipedia, Youtube as a platform, but they're probably not willing to pay for most of the niche and small sites.

And I agree that pay-as-you-go would put a high mental overhead on sites. That's why we have ads instead.