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Re:Security Update by plasma on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:49PM (#19935424)
Reflecting on this, I wonder if a PaaS solution that is a "vault" of confidential information would be a good thing.

Similar to how Stripe handles payments with a token, we could all store tokens for User information (eg the Id) and query the vault (or operate on the vault, eg, validate login, or return email, etc) using keys.

The service could be hardened (like Stripe) to ensure the data is stored securely, and detect ex-filtration attempts (eg, queries for multiple customers at once being abnormal) and automatically block that.

Re:Security Update by bigiain on Thursday May 16, 2019 @11:05PM (#19935859)
You've just invented from first principles Single Sign On, OAuth, SAML, and Identity Providers.

You can rent it from AWS, of course. It's called Cognito.

https://aws.amazon.com/cognito/

You can also offload that responsibility for user data/credentials to Google/Facebook et al as you see many places with "Login with Facebook", making your users pay in privacy-invasion instead of bearing the burden of properly securing your user's PII yourself...

Re:Security Update by jimbo1qaz on Friday May 17, 2019 @03:30AM (#19937187)
Mozilla Persona was deaigned so "the identity provider does not know which website the user is identifying on." But it did nto catch on.

As a user, it seemed like "so i need to login to Google on Mozilla.org... it's just a wrapper for my Gmail and/or Mozilla account?"

Re:Security Update by mehrdadn on Friday May 17, 2019 @12:16AM (#19936219)
Not just a privacy invasion but also a single point of failure/an account shutdown.
Re:Security Update by abraae on Thursday May 16, 2019 @10:10PM (#19935578)
This is a great idea and someone should do it.

Specialize in storing personal data (name, address etc.)

Provide APIs that only allow gentle exfiltration of data. e.g. < 10K queries per minute/hour/day whatever.

Have alternate paths (e.g. manual procedures) when greater volumes are required (e.g. for disaster recovery testing).

Then get it audited to death by some serious security firms.

Re:Security Update by toomuchtodo on Thursday May 16, 2019 @10:20PM (#19935631)
Would this be something companies would pay for?
Re:Security Update by abraae on Thursday May 16, 2019 @10:37PM (#19935735)
A FAANG wouldn't, but a corporate building e.g. a second-tier system holding customer data might.
Re:Security Update by mehrdadn on Friday May 17, 2019 @12:17AM (#19936223)
Off-topic, but why is there no M in FAANG?
Re:Security Update by nlawalker on Friday May 17, 2019 @01:45AM (#19936643)
Rejected due to poor culture fit.
Re:Security Update by dodobirdlord on Friday May 17, 2019 @05:54AM (#19937951)
The term was originally coined in order to talk about stock price behavior.
Re:Security Update by interwho on Thursday May 16, 2019 @10:56PM (#19935821)
There's a group out of the University of Warwick that's trying to commercialize a similar idea.

https://www.hubofallthings.com/main/what-is-the-hat

Re:Security Update by louis-paul on Friday May 17, 2019 @02:58AM (#19936988)
Re:Security Update by rblatz on Friday May 17, 2019 @12:19AM (#19936239)
Like azure Key Vault? I’m sure AWS and google have something similar.

Or host your own by using Hashicorp Vault.

Re:Security Update by toyg on Thursday May 16, 2019 @10:09PM (#19935569)
A single target for all gangsters on the planet? A convenient one-stop-shop, as opposed to having to penetrate multiple different services with vastly different technology stacks and protections and to then normalize data stored in a multitude of different formats? Sounds great, for attackers.
Re:Security Update by pavanagrawal123 on Thursday May 16, 2019 @10:05PM (#19935541)
Wouldn't this really just turn into a database as a service?
Re:Security Update by viraptor on Friday May 17, 2019 @12:40AM (#19936350)
Since it's users, maybe call it a directory... And since it's changing, maybe even an Active Directory? Like this https://aws.amazon.com/directoryservice/ ?
Re:Security Update by majewsky on Friday May 17, 2019 @05:37AM (#19937847)
But then we need some sort of Protocol to Access the Directory. It should be something Lightweight, ideally. ;)
Re:Security Update by anticensor on Friday May 17, 2019 @04:34PM (#19943319)
LDAP?
Re:Security Update by sroussey on Friday May 17, 2019 @12:35AM (#19936319)
No. It should prevent something like "SELECT * FROM users WHERE sex="F" and age=18".
Re:Security Update by paxys on Thursday May 16, 2019 @10:38PM (#19935740)
So, a database?