Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships
by darawk on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:03PM
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It's fine to recognize it. But if you say, z-score applicants by their 'adversity score' peer group, then you negate the impact of their parents efforts. If you negate their parents efforts, you make it not worthwhile for their parents to make those efforts in the first place. If you make it not worthwhile to make those efforts, they won't be made. And society as a whole will be worse off for it.
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Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships
by rayiner on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:37PM
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The whole point is to devalue those efforts. I thought OP wanted “equality of opportunity.” You can’t have equality of opportunity if some kids get a head start because of their parents.
Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships
by darawk on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:42PM
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In a world where the efforts of parents don't help their kids, parents won't make efforts. This will degrade the educational attainment of all kids. Most people consider this to be a bad thing.
Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships
by harryh on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:47PM
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"diminishing the effect outsized parental involvement can have on college admissions" != "efforts of parents don't help their kids"
Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships
by darawk on Thursday May 16, 2019 @10:10PM
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That really depends on how much diminishing you do. Either way, at the margin, you decrease the return to parental investment. At the margin, parents will invest less.
Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships
by bloaf on Thursday May 16, 2019 @11:57PM
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I don't think you can ever eliminate that, short of removing kids from their parents Plato's Republic style.
Adding more rules will just create perverse incentives (e.g. parents incentivized to increase crime rate in their neighborhoods to boost their children's scores.)
Re:SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships
by rayiner on Friday May 17, 2019 @12:55AM
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I agree that you can’t equality of opportunity without the government taking over the task of raising children. But that undermines OP’s premise. If “equality of opportunity” is not an option, then “equality of outcome” should be on the table.