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Re:Tesla’s Autopilot was engaged when Model 3 crashed into t... by dsfyu404ed on Thursday May 16, 2019 @01:39PM (#19931060)
It seems like wherever we trade away freedoms the thing we're supposed to be getting in return never materializes.

Benjamin Franklin has a particularly relevant quote on this subject.

Re:Tesla’s Autopilot was engaged when Model 3 crashed into t... by Tomte on Friday May 17, 2019 @12:52AM (#19936408)
Do you really know what Benjamin Franklin said, and what the context was?

https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-ben-franklin-really-said#.U...

Re:Tesla’s Autopilot was engaged when Model 3 crashed into t... by tonyedgecombe on Thursday May 16, 2019 @03:38PM (#19932278)
Well, when it comes to guns you haven't traded away any freedoms, quite the opposite so far.
Re:Tesla’s Autopilot was engaged when Model 3 crashed into t... by dsfyu404ed on Thursday May 16, 2019 @07:50PM (#19934660)
>you haven't traded away any freedoms, quite the opposite so far.

We did in '34, '68 and '86. And then there's all the states that are still waiting for SCOTUS to tell them what "shall not be infringed" means.

In my state I have to pay hundreds of dollars and rely on the discretion of the local police in order to bear any semi-modern arms and that's just the tip of the iceberg. If that's not infringement I don't know what is.