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Re:Free Solo and Economic Growth by gameswithgo on Thursday May 16, 2019 @11:00AM (#19929627)
Fun bit of trivia on this topic: Alex was the first person to climb El Cap with no protection. The first person to climb The Nose route without using the gear for aid, was a woman, Lynn Hill. So El Cap went from a weeks long project using anything they had for aid, to climbed with rope used only for protection by a woman, in a day, and now to Alex climbing El Cap (via an easier route than Hill) with no protection at all.
Re:Free Solo and Economic Growth by StevenAS on Thursday May 16, 2019 @12:23PM (#19930385)
The first two people to free El Cap were Todd Skinner and Paul Piana. The climbed the Salathe Wall in 1988. In 1993 or so Lynn Hill free climbed the Nose.
Re:Free Solo and Economic Growth by justinator on Thursday May 16, 2019 @12:07PM (#19930242)
So El Cap went from a weeks long project using anything they had for aid

Alex has also climbed that same route, in a comparable style, in under two hours.

Re:Free Solo and Economic Growth by Fricken on Thursday May 16, 2019 @12:18PM (#19930338)
Anything goes for speed ascents of The Nose, so long as you do it fast. There are aid sections, it's not entirely free.

Alex Honnold has not freed the nose with or without a rope. His nose speed record partner, Tommy Caldwell, is one of only a handful of people who have.

Lynn Hill's first free ascent of The Nose was a monumental achievement, for a woman or a man.

It's confusing because The Nose describes both the feature on El Cap, and the route that takes the plum line up that feature. Honnold's Free Solo of the Nose was on a route called Freerider.

Re:Free Solo and Economic Growth by justinator on Thursday May 16, 2019 @01:33PM (#19931014)
Alex Honnold has not freed the nose with or without a rope

That's why I said, "in a comparable style". The FA was done on aid, as was Alex's speed ascent with Tommy.

But not completely comparable. The FA had to establish anchors, drill in bolts, figure out the route. More standing on the shoulders of giants, than anything I think.

Then, it's just optimization.

Honnold's Free Solo of the Nose was on a route called Freerider.

I think the confusion may be your own? The Nose is well, The Nose. Honnold climbed a route off to the side on a feature called (initially) the Salathe Wall.

Re:Free Solo and Economic Growth by Fricken on Thursday May 16, 2019 @06:21PM (#19934015)
I concede, I was confused.