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Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by dmitriid on Sunday May 12, 2019 @03:46PM (#19894068)
> The last one created, literally, billions of value for the holders.

What it literally created was billions of vapor for the holders because ~100% of that “value” was entirely make-belief.

Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by oarsinsync on Sunday May 12, 2019 @06:02PM (#19894856)
That's true of all currencies. It's just a shared delusion that the coin or paper has any value. That in itself has value, as otherwise you left with bartering with specific goods that have value to the person you're trading with - a significantly less liquid market than the one featuring the shared delusion.

In that sense, there's nothing special about bitcoin. It's just another shared delusion, just with fewer believers. As long as there are believers, there is value. The stronger the belief, the greater the value.

Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by dmitriid on Monday May 13, 2019 @01:59AM (#19896697)
Currencies, for all their make belief, have rather tangible benefits that do end up having and creating value.

What value beyond speculation does bitcoin have?

Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by faissaloo on Sunday May 12, 2019 @05:19PM (#19894652)
I know you might find it hard to believe, but some of us actually pay for stuff in crypto
Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by dmitriid on Monday May 13, 2019 @01:57AM (#19896689)
“Some” does not equal “billions in value”. Spending the energy equivalent of several countries on transaction power equivalent of a medieval lender is not billions in value.
Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by jpkiser on Sunday May 12, 2019 @04:42PM (#19894440)
In no doubt are consumers expectations of cryptocurrency market adoption wildly over speculated but make believe? People who invest is cryptocurrencies are in essence shorting the current global financial system.
Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by dmitriid on Monday May 13, 2019 @02:00AM (#19896701)
Short:

sell (stocks or other securities or commodities) in advance of acquiring them, with the aim of making a profit when the price falls.

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In what way exactly is bitcoin helping to “short global financial system”?

Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by arbol on Monday May 13, 2019 @04:23AM (#19897164)
Widespread "belief" in currencies other than those tied to national institutions leads to weakening of the nation state and therefore the current global financial system.
Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by dmitriid on Monday May 13, 2019 @07:14AM (#19898040)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19896697

And yeah. No amount of belief can make bitcoin into a viable currency.

Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by arbol on Thursday May 16, 2019 @05:36AM (#19927482)
Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by arbol on Monday May 13, 2019 @02:22PM (#19902179)
I wasn't referring to bitcoin in particular.
Re:On the Looming Bitcoin Bubble by arbol on Monday May 13, 2019 @04:20AM (#19897158)
A cheap long shot that will pay out in the event of a gradual shift in attitudes.