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Re:Mothers Are the Unsung Heroes of Prison by chongli on Saturday May 11, 2019 @08:54AM (#19885907)
view prison as a way of getting revenge on criminals or as a way of trying to reform them

This is the crux of the whole issue. The US is split between the two notions of justice: retribution and rehabilitation. The split seems to largely fall along political lines, which means the argument isn't likely to be settled any time soon.

I tend to fall in the rehabilitation camp but I can see some of the logic behind the other side. At the very least, I recognize that it's better for the state to apply measured retribution than for families to pronounce blood feuds upon one another. Beyond that, I'm at a loss for what to do about cold, psychopathic individuals who seem utterly incapable of reform.

Re:Mothers Are the Unsung Heroes of Prison by zeropnc on Saturday May 11, 2019 @09:17AM (#19886004)
Deterrence and retribution are different things. Prison systems with harsh sentences are typically more about sending a message to potential criminals than punishing existing ones.