As I see it, they're basically an alternative to traps that don't kill quickly leading to animal suffering. They're designed to be really hard to trigger - the design was to have the animal put their mouth on it and pull hard.
Re:Oregon outlaws use of so-called ‘cyanide bombs’
by rdiddly on Friday May 10, 2019 @05:48PM
(#19882563)
Absolutely! Even assuming that they work, and that they only kill the intended target (already proven false), you're throwing cyanide around - on the ground, and potentially in the groundwater and surface water. If somebody did that on my land I'd be like "Have you lost your mind?"
Well, the good news is, it degrades and has a half-life. The bad news is, it has an other-half-life.
Re:Oregon outlaws use of so-called ‘cyanide bombs’
by scotty79 on Saturday May 11, 2019 @03:57AM
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If they worked always exactly as designed all of 0.88g of sodium cyanide should end up in coyote's mouth. And if something ends up outside it should combine with moisture and turn into cyanide gas and float away.
Re:Oregon outlaws use of so-called ‘cyanide bombs’
by beenBoutIT on Friday May 10, 2019 @07:52PM
(#19883387)
This type of society worked back in the pre-Regan days because we had institutions and unreasonably violent/crazy people would get carted off before they could get around to hurting others.
Re:Oregon outlaws use of so-called ‘cyanide bombs’
by tashi on Friday May 10, 2019 @08:37PM
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I don't think that's true. People who are mentally ill commit violent crimes at about the same rates as their neighbors. Also, crime rates are lower now than when Reagan took office.
My theory is that what really changed our levels of trust was the invention of 24-hour news. People didn't used to have someone in their ear all day reminding them to be afraid. But tons of other things have changed too, so I may be off base.
Re:Oregon outlaws use of so-called ‘cyanide bombs’
by zelon88 on Friday May 10, 2019 @04:07PM
(#19881725)
Same here. Why is cyanide randomly planted in the wild to kill wild animals? What are they eating that's causing problems? Seems to serve minimal purpose and carry a large risk. If anyone else shoots a wild animal that's eating their trash they could go to jail.
Re:Oregon outlaws use of so-called ‘cyanide bombs’
by darkpuma on Friday May 10, 2019 @04:23PM
(#19881882)
It really depends on the animal. Some, particularly feral hogs, are invasive and incredibly destructive. Humans set them loose, so it's our responsibility to run some damage control.
Re:Oregon outlaws use of so-called ‘cyanide bombs’
by darkpuma on Friday May 10, 2019 @06:13PM
(#19882756)
Federal and state employees use a wide variety of techniques to control feral hog populations, but feral hogs are very prolific. A mature female feral hog can have two litters a year and as much as a dozen piglets per litter. Because the problem is so severe, the general public are often encouraged to help.
Re:Oregon outlaws use of so-called ‘cyanide bombs’
by meritt on Friday May 10, 2019 @04:48PM
(#19882088)
Interestingly enough, the use of toxicants for animal control was made illegal on federal lands in 1972 by Nixon [1] (Executive Order 11643) and then later amended by Ford in 1975 (to specifically allow cyanide bombs) and finally revoked entirely in 1982 by Reagan.
Re:Oregon outlaws use of so-called ‘cyanide bombs’
by mattferderer on Friday May 10, 2019 @04:21PM
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I would be interested in seeing all traps outlawed. As someone who hunts, I see traps as a cruel method to reducing animal populations. They can harm or hurt many unintended people & animals. They're also often not well maintained.
You ever read an article about something being outlawed and find yourself wondering why they were legal in the first place?
Doing a bit of research, the Wikipedia article gives better information https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M44_(cyanide_device)
As I see it, they're basically an alternative to traps that don't kill quickly leading to animal suffering. They're designed to be really hard to trigger - the design was to have the animal put their mouth on it and pull hard.
Well, the good news is, it degrades and has a half-life. The bad news is, it has an other-half-life.
Like, on the one hand, awesome! I can own a flamethrower. But on the other hand, society just trusts me to have a flamethrower?
Use it wisely, and preserve it for those after you please.
My theory is that what really changed our levels of trust was the invention of 24-hour news. People didn't used to have someone in their ear all day reminding them to be afraid. But tons of other things have changed too, so I may be off base.
Funding for CA mental health services was higher as Reagan left office than when he took office.
[1] https://www.nps.gov/subjects/legal/upload/Proclamations_and_...