I suppose that’s why instead of showing examples you are making broad sweeping claims?

Airport stuff, Ping, Monster branded beats headphones, etc.

You can get support for mac/etc stuff for 5 years after purchase (which admittedly is nice). However, before you decide that is awesome, things like the headphones were killed with no support regardless of purchase date.

Apple also refuses to call anything it stopped manufacturing "canceled" at all.

It deliberately tries to message this part, calling them "vintage" until they have been "not manufactured" (IE canceled) for at least 7 years. They are then called "obsolete". This is messaging specifically used to try to confuse the issue, and is unfortunately likely effective.

See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624

Apple doesn't turn down a lot of open API's because they never have them in the first place, which i'm not sure is better.

(They do turn down existing closed APIs, and not uncommonly by force - saying if you want to put your app on the store, you must use new version of API x)

Very weak examples.

Monster and Beats ended their partnership in 2012, and Apple didn't acquire Beats till 2014.

Airport had a long run, and even when discontinued, Apple offered to service Airport products for five years.

Yes, Ping got the axe, and my heart goes out to both of Ping's active users.

"Monster and Beats ended their partnership in 2012, and Apple didn't acquire Beats till 2014.

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Oh well, did you remove everything on the list that Google shut down post-acquisition? No? Okay then.

"Yes, Ping got the axe, and my heart goes out to both of Ping's active users."

Would you change your tune if you discovered the canceled google products had less users than Ping?

Google isn't cancelling majority-user products either. If the whole point is not to hurt the minority, you are just showing you aren't willing to apply the same standards.

This whole comment feels that way - a strong inability to apply the same standards to two companies.

Again, the Monster partnership ended pre-acquisition.

I’m not criticizing Google or defending Apple. I’m just saying, your examples weren’t very convincing. If that’s the worst of Apple’s product cancellations (including one claim which wasn’t even true), that’s way better than average.

So now it’s a sin to create a product and then stop manufacturing it? The only thing I would remotely agree with is Ping but that was a social network with user counts in the dozens.

Even if you count the iPod classic, that's not a lot of things Apple cancelled compared to Google.

Because they didn't try in the first place?

Two examples are the Airport line of products and the iPods. While the iPod Touch is still made, nothing else is. That said, they still have received recent software updates, and I personally find Apple products more palatable than anything Google or Amazon.

I don't think iPods are a good example. To my knowledge, if you still own an iPod it still works. They didn't release an update that bricks them all, they just stopped making new ones, which is a totally normal thing for a company to do.

Remember Ping? :).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes_Ping

Edit: on a more serious note, what if you loved PPC development? Apple went x86 and now you can’t develop there. It’s my main fear whenever there’s talk of them using their ARM cores for a new laptop and macOS.

To be clear, I think they pulled that transition off really well, and suspect they could do x86 => ARM better than anyone (closed ecosystem, tons of LLVM people). It would still mean they were deprecating and cancelling x86 though (presumably with a Rosetta-like translator for a while).