The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by jchw on Thursday May 09, 2019 @11:33AM (#19869179)

I was initially very excited for WSL2, but I do worry it will require Hyper-V to be enabled. I use VMWare Workstation and it’s a true pain to switch Hyper-V on and off. Also, I cant help but worry that this will somehow be a downgrade in some way... will it be just as integrated? Windows Firewall worked on WSL Pico processes for example.

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by OkGoDoIt on Thursday May 09, 2019 @12:19PM (#19869605)

I hate the way HyperV messes up networking with its virtual network adapters. It gets complicated with a VPN or LTE connection really quickly. Maybe I’m just doing it wrong, but I’ve never found networking to work properly on a machine with HyperV enabled.

Switching to a virtualization model feels like a step backwards. If I wanted a virtualized Linux on Windows, I’d run a virtual Linux on Windows. WSL is special because it’s a middle ground.

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by zamadatix on Thursday May 09, 2019 @12:21PM (#19869627)

For PC use you should use the default NAT switch that way your adapters stay physical.

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by skrebbel on Thursday May 09, 2019 @01:33PM (#19870280)

if it needs hyper-v, then what's the point? how is it fundamentally different from just running ubuntu in virtualbox with a shared network drive, then? except where the terminal window is?

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by chrisdfrey on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:07PM (#19871859)

Because Hyper-V is a type 1 hypervisor, VMs that use it can be faster; I've found using docker in virtualbox is a lot slower than using docker for Windows (which uses Hyper-V).

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by orf on Thursday May 09, 2019 @01:53PM (#19870484)

The tight integration of course. And not having to use Virtualbox.

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by anon4242 on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:18PM (#19871974)

Well, you won't be able to use Virtualbox anymore.. at least for 64 bit OSes :(

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by sorz on Friday May 10, 2019 @03:19AM (#19875769)

> Windows Firewall worked on WSL Pico processes for example.

In WSL1 they share the same IP addresses and TCP/UDP port space, while WSL2 has an separated IP address. I suppose there is some NAT to make the network working in WSL2.

At the end of Q&A part they mentioned that sharing localhost, IP addresses, and port number space (which is a WSL1 feature) may be done in future, but they have no roadmap for it right now.

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by wnevets on Thursday May 09, 2019 @01:40PM (#19870364)

Yeah one of the big selling points of WSL1 was the lack of VM.

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by resters on Thursday May 09, 2019 @02:35PM (#19870870)

why is that? performance?

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by CWuestefeld on Thursday May 09, 2019 @03:51PM (#19871676)

Hyper-V and VMWare don't work well together. If your machine is running on VMWare (as do our development workstations), then you won't be able to use Hyper-V. This already prevents us from using Docker on the dev workstations themselves (which are Win10).

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by Skunkleton on Thursday May 09, 2019 @02:36PM (#19870887)

VMs give near-native performance, and it's not like WSL1 was particularly fast.

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by Tuna-Fish on Thursday May 09, 2019 @02:52PM (#19871046)

WSL1 was notably slow, because the windows file system stack is much slower on metadata than Linux.

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by wnevets on Thursday May 09, 2019 @05:28PM (#19872612)

The last time I checked virtualbox and hyper v can't run at the sametime.

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Re:The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [... by nikbackm on Friday May 10, 2019 @03:24AM (#19875795)

VirtualBox 6.0 should support it. Still considered an experimental feature though.

https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E97728_01/F12470/html/hyperv-inte...

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