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Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by SamuelAdams on Thursday May 09, 2019 @09:42AM (#19868179)
Another example: what if cell phone carriers only let you talk / text with people on the same carrier network? Suddenly everyone would need to buy T-Mobile, or Verizon, or Sprint, just to talk to one another. Or carry 4 different sim cards, similar to having multiple accounts.

Sounds terrible? Good. That's what Facebook is doing now.

Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by yoz-y on Thursday May 09, 2019 @01:30PM (#19870262)
Back in the day when I had my first cell phone things were not that far from this. Except that usually it was free/cheap to call people that were on the same carrier and price to call other carriers was ludicrous.
Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by joe_the_user on Thursday May 09, 2019 @03:40PM (#19871537)
The problem is that social networking protocols would inherently be much more complex than phone protocols (but it could be done). Moreover, some body would have to standardize those protocols as well as discovering some way of preventing spam. My hunch that I know get more spam on my phone number than either my email or my Facebook account because phones still have open points of entry.
Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by kerkeslager on Thursday May 09, 2019 @05:11PM (#19872468)
I suspect there are two reasons we get more spam phone calls:

1. There's no effective signing on phone calls, so spoofing a phone number is easy. This makes it impossible to prosecute spammers.

2. There's no way to filter a phone call based on the content of the phone call before it arrives. It's possible to spoof senders on email and text messages as well, but it's also possible to filter these based on content before they reach your inbox. This isn't perfect, but it greatly reduces spam in text-based mediums.

Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by Spooky23 on Thursday May 09, 2019 @05:46PM (#19872756)
The main reason is the telcos choose not to, because they make money on them.

You can eliminate ~95%+ of junk calls from the telco side.

Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by kerkeslager on Friday May 10, 2019 @11:05PM (#19884271)
How?
Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by theseatoms on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:02PM (#19871810)
The open protocol could start small and gradually grow over time, maintaining backwards compatibility.

The incentives aren't there, of course.

Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by int_19h on Thursday May 09, 2019 @04:47PM (#19872271)
For starters, let's just have them open, and let the market figure out how to bridge them. With lessons learned from that, maybe we can come up with something working.

But even if not, it would already be a drastic improvement on what we have.

Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by thebigspacefuck on Thursday May 09, 2019 @10:16AM (#19868469)
Facebook lets you share posts from Twitter and Instagram, not sure about what else
Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by kerkeslager on Thursday May 09, 2019 @05:12PM (#19872478)
When you share a post on Twitter or Instagram, you're creating a Facebook share--this isn't an example of an open protocol in any way.
Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by greedo on Thursday May 09, 2019 @01:18PM (#19870155)
Umm, Facebook owns Instagram.
Re:Chris Hughes Says It’s Time to Break Up Facebook by someluccc on Thursday May 09, 2019 @03:03PM (#19871174)
Except it takes 30 seconds and it’s free to open a facebook account. You can even use messenger without having a facebook profile.