Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.1.1)

Re:Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.... by voldacar on Saturday May 04, 2019 @06:18PM (#19829739)

If the govt of your jurisdiction (American I assume?) commanded you to censor a certain domain or block of IPs with a court order, what exactly happens? I'm not sure if this has been done on the DNS level before but do you guys have a plan in case it ever does happen?

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Re:Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.... by incompatible on Saturday May 04, 2019 @08:16PM (#19830260)

Jurisdiction would include every place where they have a business presence. Their page https://www.cloudflare.com/en-au/about-overview/ lists quite a few international phone numbers, which may or may not correspond with offices and subsidiary companies in those locations.

I assume they'd just have to go along with such legal demands, or withdraw from the relevant country, unless the penalty for not complying was very small.

It will probably become an issue some day. In Australia, for example, courts can issue DNS bans of particular sites to individual ISPs. You can avoid these bans entirely by using a service like Cloudfare DNS.

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Re:Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.... by syshum on Saturday May 04, 2019 @08:52PM (#19830397)

Or you know you Piss off CloudFare CEO and he directs them to censor a site... Which has happened in the past

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Re:Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.... by zimmund on Saturday May 04, 2019 @11:56PM (#19831059)

Can you cite any source on this?

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Re:Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.... by dlgeek on Sunday May 05, 2019 @02:06AM (#19831428)

It's a reference to https://www.businessinsider.com/the-daily-stormer-got-pushed...

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Re:Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.... by syshum on Sunday May 05, 2019 @02:55AM (#19831549)

https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/

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Re:Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.... by fapjacks on Saturday May 04, 2019 @09:14PM (#19830479)

Exactly. If it's not "the right kind" of content behind a domain, it doesn't even take a court order for CloudFlare to censor it.

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Re:Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.... by valkum on Sunday May 05, 2019 @04:39AM (#19831812)

that is not censorship.

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Re:Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.... by ddalex on Sunday May 05, 2019 @04:53AM (#19831839)

No, it's not. However it breaks the trust in the Cloud Flares integrity they so proudly mention in this thread. Once they banned something, how can you trust them to not ban something else, perhaps a bit more silently next time?

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