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mostly builder 102 votes
mostly entrepreneur 43 votes
both 81 votes
neither 4 votes
Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by rw on Friday May 23, 2008 @04:47PM (#198380)
Taking this poll reinforces the mindset that I can't change myself.
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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by radu_floricica on Friday May 23, 2008 @05:13PM (#198399)
Yup. I kinda thing this whole entrepreneur vs builder thing is just a rationalization for programmers that they don't have to be good at entreprenorial stuff and they have an excuse. True, few people are good at it, but it's the same proportion as in every other population, maybe they're even more frequent due to the programmers already being smart and sortof open. There's no inverse relation. The bad news is that any valuable skill is rare and hard to learn. You're not going to get is as easy as a new programming language - it takes lots of time and trial&error, and not a little luck (and talent, the same thing).
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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by davidw on Friday May 23, 2008 @05:42PM (#198433)
It's not a "rationalization" - it's a recognition that people are different, and good at different things, and how to work with and around that. As I said with the original posting, I admire PG for having 'shown the way', or at least one way, for builders to have a go at a startup.

You can look at it the other way: lots of entrepreneurs aren't that strong technically. Some go out and try and learn, some try to find other ways around the problem - by partnering with tech people, for instance.

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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by bkovitz on Saturday May 24, 2008 @09:18AM (#198756)
"Identifying where I am now means I can't change myself" is one way of looking at this. Another, of course, is that by identifying where you are now, you can plot a course for what you want to do next.

I've been a "builder" my whole life, terribly shy, no clue about sales or marketing or business, just glad that other people took care of that so I could get paid to do interesting work. For the last couple years, I've been doing things to get over the shyness, and have had a lot of success. Now getting learned up about business, because I want to own the thing I'm working on and have it pay the rent.

That's why I'm on HN. Looks like a lot of us here are doing that.

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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by webwright on Friday May 23, 2008 @06:27PM (#198461)
I find the idea of calling them "entrepreneurs" to be just WRONG. What I think you're saying is "biz guy"... Which are critical for some startups, but useless for others.

Varying startups require that someone steps up to the plate to perform a variety of tasks-- and for each startup, the needs are different.

You're looking for a formula and there isn't one.

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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by ArcticCelt on Friday May 23, 2008 @03:50PM (#198336)
I find the definition of the previous article flawed therefor I can't answer to something incorrectly defined.
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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by rewind on Friday May 23, 2008 @04:15PM (#198357)
Can you elaborate? What's your definition?
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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by volida on Saturday May 24, 2008 @12:59AM (#198632)
who comes up with these lame questions
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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by maheshcr on Saturday May 24, 2008 @07:59PM (#199186)
Good question, makes one think on which side one actually stands...
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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by maxklein on Saturday May 24, 2008 @05:17AM (#198693)
I see myself as neither. I am an artist, and life is my canvas.
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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by eventhough on Friday May 23, 2008 @04:15PM (#198358)
isn't builder a subset of entrepreneur?
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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by rhiltd on Friday May 23, 2008 @06:39PM (#198472)
Tridge is considers Australia's best hacker. But he has no interest in forming any company. The only time he was convinced was to help form a company was with Linuxcare. Along with Rasmus Lerdorf (PHP), Martin Pool (Apache), Paul 'Rusty' Russell (ipchains) and Richard Morrell (SmoothWall)

He is interested in superior technological solutions. He does not care about term sheets (aka term shits) or vesting rights etc.

He get paid VERY WELL for stuff he loves doing.

What is better than that????

BTW, he was ANU chess champion and often played blindfolded.

PS Australia's greatest hacker was John Lions.

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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by bootload on Saturday May 24, 2008 @08:22AM (#198735)
"... Tridge is considers (sic) Australia's best hacker. ..."

hmmm ... if it's "au-hacker-fanboy-time" what about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damian_Conway ? Plus he's funnier ~ http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail880.html

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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by davidw on Friday May 23, 2008 @04:21PM (#198367)
Not at all. As an example, look at all the cool stuff this guy has built (and there are significant things not listed):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Tridgell

But he doesn't seem inclined to strike out on his own, even though something like Samba Inc. would certainly have a shot at making some money.

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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by sabat on Friday May 23, 2008 @06:34PM (#198468)
Wanna be both? I'm more a builder, if you look at my past, but I'm actively learning entrepreneurship.
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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by ideas101 on Friday May 23, 2008 @04:17PM (#198362)
for new folks you should add definition besides each category. though i think all entrepreneurs are builders.
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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by ryanagraves on Friday May 23, 2008 @04:32PM (#198371)
this is a great point. I would consider myself much more entrepreneur than coder but I'm definitely a builder!
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Re:Poll: Are you a builder or entrepreneur? by ideas101 on Friday May 23, 2008 @04:18PM (#198363)
by the way how did u add pointer (up arrow) to count votes?
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