Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by SkyBelow on Friday May 03, 2019 @02:16PM
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>Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes.
Republicans are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes.
Not the same classes, perhaps even classes that many don't want recognized, such as the unborn, but the statement is still just as true.
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by ModernMech on Friday May 03, 2019 @08:53PM
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Abortion isn't blatant hostility toward fetuses. No one gets an abortion because they hate fetuses.
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by collegecamp293 on Friday May 03, 2019 @01:34PM
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"Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes."
There are tons of YouTube videos on college campuses that prove otherwise.
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by awinder on Friday May 03, 2019 @02:11PM
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Reminder: having shitty ideas is not a protected class, and “free speech” does not mean you get to say whatever batshit crazy thing comes to mind without other people expressing themselves
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by SkyBelow on Friday May 03, 2019 @02:18PM
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There seems to be an implication that the outcry is only ever against "shitty ideas". I think there are plenty of cases that prove this untrue.
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by jayess on Friday May 03, 2019 @02:14PM
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You just made parent's point perfectly. A total lack of self awareness.
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by ng12 on Friday May 03, 2019 @07:59PM
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Plenty of people on both sides have "batshit crazy" ideas, except one leans more heavily on mob mentality thanks to the self-righteousness that comes with the unshaken belief that you have the moral highground.
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by CamperBob2 on Friday May 03, 2019 @09:59PM
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except one leans more heavily on mob mentality thanks to the self-righteousness that comes with the unshaken belief that you have the moral highground.
Well, Goldwater tried to warn the Republicans about what would happen if they kept sucking up to the evangelicals, and...
Oh, wait, were you talking about Democrats?
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by cwperkins on Friday May 03, 2019 @02:19PM
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Listen to yourself man. By closing the door to debate you open up the floor to hostility. Some conservatives have demented ideas, but that doesn’t mean ALL do. If we are going to heal our divisions it’s going to take more than each side calling the other ‘Snowflake’
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by awinder on Friday May 03, 2019 @02:34PM
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I'm not taking a side here and said nothing about not listening to any conservative or closing off to debate. I'm merely pointing out that "college kids didn't want to listen to token conservative talkinghead A or B" is not equivalent to how classes of people are treated in the slightest.
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by mamon on Friday May 03, 2019 @04:18PM
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There's a difference between "I dont want to listen to token conservative talkinghead A, so I won't come to his lecture" and "I don't want to listen to token conservative talkinghead A, so I think he should be banned from ever entering my college premises".
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by komali2 on Friday May 03, 2019 @02:25PM
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I was under the impression we were speaking of government officials, not 19 year old college kids.
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by kro92kfmrzz on Friday May 03, 2019 @03:30PM
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I was describing the politicians themselves.
But I did conclude that they also fall short in many areas.
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by lopmotr on Friday May 03, 2019 @04:44PM
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> not be outright hostile to the truly marginalized
No popular party can do this or they wouldn't be truly marginalized. By definition, it's impossible.
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by jayess on Friday May 03, 2019 @02:11PM
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> Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes
What rock are you living under?
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by cwperkins on Friday May 03, 2019 @02:07PM
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That’s a smear against conservatives and blatantly untrue.
There are activist organizations on both sides calling for violence and both should be condemned.
Re:A New Way of Voting That Makes Zealotry Expensive
by throwaway031519 on Friday May 03, 2019 @02:18PM
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Corollary: You also had people that were very fine people on both sides.
Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes.
But both have largely been ok with everyone being exploited by feudal trade economics, bombing other nations to satisfy global political norms, and swindling developing nations out of their resources, while emotionally coddling elites.
It means something to not be outright hostile to the truly marginalized, but the Dems have not exactly been labors friend. And most people are laborers. They’ve failed the majority plenty.