JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face

Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by dillonmckay on Thursday May 02, 2019 @06:30PM (#19813593)

You don’t need photo ID to fly. TSA will ask you questions from your credit report and allow you to board.

*US citizens flying within the states.

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by bookofjoe on Thursday May 02, 2019 @10:11PM (#19814899)

From TSA press release April 4, 2019 (https://www.tsa.gov/news/releases/2019/04/04/tsa-reminds-tra...): "Travelers will begin seeing new signs at airports nationwide in the coming weeks to remind people that REAL ID-compliant licenses or other acceptable forms of ID, such as a valid passport, federal government PIV card or U.S. military ID, will be mandatory for air travel beginning on October 1, 2020. Critically important, on October 1, 2020, individuals who are unable to verify their identity will not be permitted to enter the TSA checkpoint and will not be allowed to fly."

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by LastZactionHero on Thursday May 02, 2019 @10:24PM (#19814965)

Oh, sorry, you don’t have ID? Oh… I hate to tell you, but… I guess you live in Dallas now. I think you need to start a new life here in Dallas, and work hard until you get a new ID. And then you could use that ID to fly back to your old life and get your old ID.

- Hannibal Buress

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by morpheuskafka on Thursday May 02, 2019 @07:36PM (#19814072)

You are required by regulation to have it. There is, as you describe, a convenience procedure intended to help people who forget their ID. You could still be turned away if you do this frequently or they otherwise have reason to doubt the legitimacy of it. And they don't have time for everyone in line to do it--if they did, this exception would go away completely.

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by dillonmckay on Thursday May 02, 2019 @08:29PM (#19814384)

For sure. A coworker lost his wallet while hiking after a sales visit prior to his flight.

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by gumby on Thursday May 02, 2019 @07:14PM (#19813896)

You are correct; sad that most people don't know this.

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by reallydude on Thursday May 02, 2019 @08:15PM (#19814314)

I'm not sure that's true everywhere, but not for long many places (eg California, Washington).

Casual article on it: https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/how-to-get-on-a-pla...

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by gumby on Friday May 03, 2019 @09:33AM (#19818233)

The real id rules only address what documents count as id, no the cases of no id

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by asdff on Thursday May 02, 2019 @08:21PM (#19814340)

Why should they? The only time it would be relevant is if you forgot your ID, and if you want to rent a car or hotel at your destination that might be a problem there as well. Knowing the TSA, I bet this adds at least an hour to the trip as you are begrudgingly walked to some back room and sit there for 20 minutes while someone is pulling up your file.

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by ghaff on Friday May 03, 2019 @01:23AM (#19815794)

My one experience with losing an ID was that there was no real issue although it took 15 minutes or so to do a more thorough check. It was very professional. The Travelodge at the other end was a bigger deal though I was eventually able to check in there.

ADDED: It appears that as of Oct 1 2020, this sort of exception will no longer be possible.

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by gumby on Friday May 03, 2019 @09:36AM (#19818271)

Do you have a ref? I haven’t seen any notice of change, though of course the actual law is classified.

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by ghaff on Saturday May 04, 2019 @10:54AM (#19826791)

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs

It doesn't explicitly say "no exceptions" but the plain text is certainly that you will need appropriate ID (Real ID/passport/etc.) to go through TSA when Real ID requirement fully kicks in.

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by gumby on Sunday May 05, 2019 @03:27PM (#19834496)

The barrage of propaganda since the Gore match-if-to-traveler policy was enacted has been that ID is required but in practice it has not been enforced. As I mentioned, the actual law is classified so cannot be consulted not litigated in court so we’ll simply have to see

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by gumby on Friday May 03, 2019 @09:35AM (#19818256)

I typically don’t carry any id in the us, and since Apple Pay came out just a little cash in my pocket.

The inspection is not a big deal and they are prepared for this situation. It’s a shame that the laws that control this are classified (cf Gilmore v Gonzalez) so we can’t know what the actual rules are.

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by acct1771 on Thursday May 02, 2019 @10:43PM (#19815055)

Is REAL ID dead?

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by gumby on Friday May 03, 2019 @09:30AM (#19818209)

I hope so. The gosh-darn-no-exceptions deadline has been extended several times and I presume will be again.

It’s a “solution” in search of a problem.

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Re:JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her... by URSpider94 on Friday May 03, 2019 @01:16AM (#19815773)

You need more than a photo ID for international travel. You need a passport and any required visas to clear into the destination. Airlines care very much about this, because they are responsible for repatriating you if you are denied entry at your destination.

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