Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar, let alone generic religious flamewar.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Other religions that have kept their popularity and adherents over the centuries(and much in the past century) have, part, reformed and toned down the significance of these violent mythologies especially in their relevance to doctrine. To assert otherwise seems like arguing in bad faith.

Yes, you are arguing in very bad faith to ignore the millions dead in the middle east in the last 20 years due to sectarian fighting between abrahamic faiths.

Hate to break the news to you, but... https://qr.ae/TWIst4

"...Anti-religion has caused more deaths than religion"

I'm no fan of abrahamic faiths nor religion in general, though. I just try to separate fact from fiction. I'm kept very busy. ;)

Are you arguing that the middle east would be more violent without religion? I said nothing about secular groups being non violent by the way.

I'm arguing that we have no way to tell if religion is simply just the excuse to make war instead of some other tribal us-vs-them mentality, which humans (throughout history, alas) are wont to do

Just one.

The level of discussion in this thread is unfortunate.

I get pretty irritated with intentional imprecision, as usually it's attempting to obfuscate what's actually happening. Unidirectional violence from exactly one religion should not be then generalized to a family of religions.

ah yes, argumentum ad cultural relitivismus.

does this actually negate my point?

nevermind the fact that it is not actually true..

christanity, buddhism, sikhism, etc. among many, many, others do not have racism as part of their theological core doctrines. This is not to say that strands of any haven't misused the theology in the name of racism, but your claim is patently false.

Some strains of Judaism do have racism at the core. They believe they are chosen by God and there are many texts that support the idea that non-jews are lesser beings.

In any case what does it matter? What matters is how many people suffer and die at the behest of a religion, regardless if you can pinpoint racism or not.

so intent is irrelevant?

and misrepresentation by another group is not usurping the purpose of the original group?

or is nuance also irrelevant, so one should tar-and-feather everything because making distinctions is difficult?

I hear hackers are bad people, so who are you for using this site?