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Re:Epic Games Is Acquiring Psyonix by cloakandswagger on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:15PM (#19804305)
Valve has never been good at building progression systems, and that's exactly what killed Artifact.

You get no rewards for playing the game. If you want new cards, you have to spend money on packs or spend money to enter drafts.

This old fashioned "just play the game because it's fun" mentality is dogma to Valve, but nowadays users want and require the Pavlovian reward systems.

Re:Epic Games Is Acquiring Psyonix by Wowfunhappy on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:28PM (#19804393)
> This old fashioned "just play the game because it's fun" mentality is dogma to Valve, but nowadays users want and require the Pavlovian reward systems.

Speaking to the choir I suspect, but god do I hate progression systems.

Haven't played Artifact, but I'm really not convinced by the narrative that Valve is removed from this stuff. TF2 and Counter Strike all have loot and inventory systems of their own. They're basically required in any free to play game.

Re:Epic Games Is Acquiring Psyonix by meruru on Thursday May 02, 2019 @12:17AM (#19804671)
Did Hearthstone handle progression better? I believe it's a fairly popular game.