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Re:Epic Games Is Acquiring Psyonix by meruru on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:03PM (#19804244)
Why is that? Did it turn out to be a bad game? As a fan of Magic: The Gathering I was quite interested in it and the concept looked interesting too.
Re:Epic Games Is Acquiring Psyonix by JauntTrooper on Thursday May 02, 2019 @01:37PM (#19810357)
As someone in their exact target demographic - I play Magic Arena and Hearthstone regularly - I think they messed up the business model. I don’t mind paying $50 for a game or $20 for an expansion, but I hate getting nickeled and dimed and I was put off by the fact that if I ended up really enjoying the game there wasn’t a path to continue playing without continuing to pay every time. Felt like gambling not relaxing.
Re:Epic Games Is Acquiring Psyonix by cloakandswagger on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:15PM (#19804305)
Valve has never been good at building progression systems, and that's exactly what killed Artifact.

You get no rewards for playing the game. If you want new cards, you have to spend money on packs or spend money to enter drafts.

This old fashioned "just play the game because it's fun" mentality is dogma to Valve, but nowadays users want and require the Pavlovian reward systems.

Re:Epic Games Is Acquiring Psyonix by Wowfunhappy on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:28PM (#19804393)
> This old fashioned "just play the game because it's fun" mentality is dogma to Valve, but nowadays users want and require the Pavlovian reward systems.

Speaking to the choir I suspect, but god do I hate progression systems.

Haven't played Artifact, but I'm really not convinced by the narrative that Valve is removed from this stuff. TF2 and Counter Strike all have loot and inventory systems of their own. They're basically required in any free to play game.

Re:Epic Games Is Acquiring Psyonix by meruru on Thursday May 02, 2019 @12:17AM (#19804671)
Did Hearthstone handle progression better? I believe it's a fairly popular game.
Re:Epic Games Is Acquiring Psyonix by 666lumberjack on Thursday May 02, 2019 @05:34AM (#19806132)
It had an upfront cost (where all the competing card games are F2P) and a cost to play as well as to acquire cards, which put a lot of people off. It is also a more complex game than say Hearthstone, but I think the success of MOBAs proves that complexity is not an inherent barrier to popularity.