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Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by philsnow on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @06:36PM (#19792697)
The "trouble" with Orkut was the large majority of those users were outside the United States. Brazil and later India made up the majority.

Those eyeballs weren't worth as much to advertisers, and I don't think Google valued the product highly because of it.

Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by rusk on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @07:30PM (#19793057)
> Those eyeballs weren't worth as much to intelligence agencies
Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by lallysingh on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @09:18PM (#19793699)
Where on the 10-Q is revenue from intelligence agencies? I seemed to have missed that line.
Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by acct1771 on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @03:19AM (#19795162)
Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by lallysingh on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @11:26AM (#19797934)
The argument structure there 'a related to b related to c, therefore c works for a', isn't far from what they use on Ancient Aliens.

So, where's the actual profit? Or is this all mind control, friend-of-a-friend illuminati stuff that's assumed to make Google want to do this stuff?

Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by acct1771 on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @04:25PM (#19801268)
You have a short attention span for a finance guy...

Argue the points, or don't bother addressing the writeup. Good grief.

Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by lallysingh on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @05:40PM (#19801909)
Going ad-hominem now? What points? You posted URLs. Neither of the URLs showed a revenue stream to Google.
Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by z92 on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @07:33PM (#19793078)
That was because you couldn't "sign up" for Orkut. You had to receive an invitation from someone who already has an account. Therefore it spread in regions where people knew one another, instead of spreading smoothly.

The reason why they kept it like that was because of the processing power that was needed to serve the pages. That was more than search. Every individual had to be served a different page. And computing at that time weren't as cheap.

Facebook was the first large practical social network among these where you can actually go and signup an account on your own when it was fully open. And they did it by heavily optimizing their code and hardware. That was a separate challenge, which seemed to me Google was unwilling to take for Orkut or anything social at that time.

That's what I felt was happening as an outsider.

Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by romwell on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @08:19PM (#19793337)
>Facebook was the first social network where you can actually go and signup an account on your own.

That's doubly false :)

First, all social networks that preceded it (LiveJournal and MySpace were big amongst my peers) had open sign-ups.

Second, Facebook became popular because the sign-up was not open. You needed to have an .edu email address to sign up. This was a feature, as it kept parents and younger siblings off the networks. Having a FB account was a literal right of passage, something you can only get once you go to college. It spread because of that; those were the great days of FB.

Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by rincebrain on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @09:07PM (#19793635)
Minor remark - LiveJournal had a closed invite (or pay to play) system for a few years, before doing open access again. :)
Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by z92 on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @09:12PM (#19793657)
Indeed. But you get the point.
Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by zapzupnz on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @07:48PM (#19793166)
> Facebook was the first social network where you can actually go and signup an account on your own

Myspace, Friendster, Bebo…

Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by icebraining on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @10:02PM (#19793898)
And Hi5 - I remember kids using that before FB took over.
Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by IshKebab on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @03:31AM (#19795194)
No way does a social network require more compute than searching the entire internet. That is ridiculous.

They cut Orkut because Brazilians aren't worth much in advertising. Plain and simple.

Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by lugg on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @09:55PM (#19793853)
> Therefore it spread in regions where people knew one another, instead of spreading smoothly.

I laughed far harder than I should have.

Re:Eric Schmidt Steps Down from Alphabet’s Board of Directors by jmmcd on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @08:35AM (#19796467)
They are beautiful regions. Have you had the chance to visit?