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Re:Gravitational Wormhole: WireGuard for Kubernetes by tialaramex on Monday April 29, 2019 @04:43PM (#19782425)
I'm enthusiastic about WireGuard but I'm dubious about the "forklift" approach you describe. Actually, more seriously, I doubt in most cases that systems to be forklifted were truly secure originally and so while I don't think using WireGuard makes that worse, it may mean an opportunity is missed to fix more serious problems.

Presuming that by mTLS you mean mutually authenticated TLS, I don't see it as a good fit for internal systems - to me (as someone who has implemented mutual auth to considerable success) it's best where you have B2B applications, because you've got the three distinct parties that make a PKI worthwhile. Whenever I see a PKI in which all three of the parties are essentially identical I cringe, e.g. I keep seeing OpenVPN setups where one person runs the CA, runs the VPN server and mints all the private keys - the PKI is pure theatre in this approach, it makes no difference to anything.

Re:Gravitational Wormhole: WireGuard for Kubernetes by wmf on Monday April 29, 2019 @04:54PM (#19782519)
Speaking from deep inside The Enterprise...

I doubt in most cases that systems to be forklifted were truly secure originally...

Yeah, people generally understand that apps developed under a perimeter security mindset aren't considered secure by newer zero-trust standards.

...an opportunity is missed to fix more serious problems.

The security debt is so enormous that there will probably never be enough budget to fix it.