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Re:WeWork Files for IPO by itamarst on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:26PM (#19781742)
"Clearest economic model"? They're losing almost 2 BILLION dollars a year (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/business/dealbook/wework-...)
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by chadash on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:37PM (#19781845)
Their economic model can be clear and simple even if it isn't profitable. At it's core, the model is:

a) buy or rent commercial real estate

b) rent that same real estate out to people who want office space

As long as the money coming in from b is sufficiently greater than the money being spent on a, you should be good.

As far as profitability, the company is making investments now that will pay back over time. Since they are growing quickly, you'd expect them to take a loss since they have to make upfront investments in new offices (and on real estate, which they seem to be getting into the business of purchasing outright rather than taking out long term leases).

EDIT: I don't have an opinion one way or another on whether WeWork is a good business to invest in or not, but it's definitely a straightforward and easy to understand business, as opposed to say, a bank or a biotech company.

Re:WeWork Files for IPO by nebolo on Monday April 29, 2019 @04:05PM (#19782099)
I think the model is rather: a) buy long-term leases at low price b) sell short-term leases at high price

The problem with this model is that when demand for real estate falls (e.g. because of economic cycles, trends/tastes, etc.) the revenues will evaporate and the costs will remain.

Re:WeWork Files for IPO by JackFr on Monday April 29, 2019 @05:02PM (#19782591)
It's like the old joke: If you can't pay back a $1 million loan, you have a problem. If you can't pay back your $1 billion loan, the bank has a problem.

If WeWork can't pay the lease on 29,000 square feet of office space, WeWork has a problem. If they can't pay the lease on 2.9 million square feet of office space, the owners have a problem.

Re:WeWork Files for IPO by DesiLurker on Monday April 29, 2019 @09:04PM (#19784185)
that is true only when WeWork may be in danger of filing bankruptcy, otherwise contract law prevails.
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by CPLX on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @09:12AM (#19787570)
My understanding is that they spin up separate entities to sign leases, and have cancellation clauses. It seems nuts landlords would agree to that but it’s come up a few times in prior threads.
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by DavidHm on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @08:23AM (#19796409)
There's a bit of longer-term reputation damage which is significant in an industry dominated by companies who tend to think over the span of decades rather than quarters.

One fairly big serviced offices company pulled the "separate entities" trick in one of the previous recessions, and some of the major landlords in that country still to this day, more than a decade later, refuse to do business with them.

Re:WeWork Files for IPO by 55555 on Monday April 29, 2019 @09:49PM (#19784412)
I think also more true when they rent from a single owner.
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by BrandonM on Monday April 29, 2019 @06:02PM (#19783011)
An HN submission 4 months ago¹ reported that WeWork forms a separate subsidiary for each lease agreement. So at least when they're not the owner, they've conveniently arranged to not be on the hook if a particular location or region doesn't work out.

¹ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18714962

Re:WeWork Files for IPO by mr_custard on Monday April 29, 2019 @06:45PM (#19783329)
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by cm2187 on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:44PM (#19781911)
And commercial real estate never goes down...
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by idlewords on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:26PM (#19781749)
They lease property long-term, then rent it out short-term at a staggering loss. That's a model of clarity
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by itamarst on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:29PM (#19781771)
Fair.

I used to work at company that rented from WeWork. And we were in their awful glass cubicles, like working in a Borg ship, and we wanted some privacy, so we asked about putting up some removal decals.

They said no, it violated their brand guidelines.

Clarity, always clarity.

Re:WeWork Files for IPO by idlewords on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:32PM (#19781799)
That is true commitment to transparency.
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by kevin_thibedeau on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:51PM (#19781970)
Just build a cubicle within your cubicle.
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by warent on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:28PM (#19781766)
Their revenue growth is accelerating and they're only losing money because they're investing it all on growth. The year they stop expanding/buying/renting new spaces, they'll bring in a huge net profit.
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by kgwgk on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:56PM (#19782014)
The magic of adjustments: ebitla-dee-da (comment about WeWork's “Community Adjusted Ebitda”) https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2018/04/26/1524715201000/The-mag...
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by itamarst on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:30PM (#19781785)
"Sure, we lose a little on every sale, but we make it up on volume!"
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by e40 on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:41PM (#19781876)
That's not it at all.
Re:WeWork Files for IPO by temp1831 on Monday April 29, 2019 @03:35PM (#19781831)
No, and I don't think you did a decent job trying to interpret what he said.