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Re:Flutter desktop shells by grayrest on Thursday April 25, 2019 @11:15AM (#19749021)
> is it going to last? Is it yet another thing Google will abandon?

It's apparently the primary language for Google Ads. As such, I expect it to be maintained as long as Google continues to sell ads and if they do move away from it you'll have plenty of warning.

Re:Flutter desktop shells by Reedx on Thursday April 25, 2019 @11:22AM (#19749093)
People keep saying that in Flutter threads, but it appears to be a small app for managing your ads? If it's just this, it wouldn't be hard to replace:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/google-ads/id1037457231?mt=8

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...

Via https://flutter.dev/showcase

Re:Flutter desktop shells by skybrian on Thursday April 25, 2019 @11:36AM (#19749234)
Not just mobile. Dart (though not Flutter) is also used by the AdWords web app, which is quite enormous.

That said, Adwords used to be written in GWT. It's not impossible to migrate, but quite a big job.

Re:Flutter desktop shells by stephenr on Thursday April 25, 2019 @12:31PM (#19749785)
So, dart is safe until google moves onto the next thing it invents.

How’s GWT looking these days?

Re:Flutter desktop shells by Apocryphon on Thursday April 25, 2019 @12:37PM (#19749848)
It lasted for about eleven years which is not bad as far as frameworks go.
Re:Flutter desktop shells by SlowRobotAhead on Thursday April 25, 2019 @01:24PM (#19750384)
But this isn't a framework alone. It's a framework (flutter) and a language (dart). And at this point both are entirely dependent on each other, if I'm not mistaken.
Re:Flutter desktop shells by skybrian on Thursday April 25, 2019 @01:36PM (#19750536)
Looks like it occasionally gets an update, even though the GWT team moved on to j2cl.

https://gwt.googlesource.com/gwt/+log

Re:Flutter desktop shells by moocowtruck on Thursday April 25, 2019 @12:12PM (#19749597)
right but the money maker of adwords is not in dart at all, common lisp i think?
Re:Flutter desktop shells by skybrian on Thursday April 25, 2019 @01:49PM (#19750678)
I don't know what you mean? Google has many large ad customers who use the web UI to manage their campaigns.

Common Lisp was rarely used at Google when I was there, though it's a big company and you do see a little of everything, sometimes due to acquisitions. You might be thinking of ITA software, which is (was?) used for airline reservations.

Re:Flutter desktop shells by coldtea on Thursday April 25, 2019 @11:56AM (#19749444)
>It's apparently the primary language for Google Ads.

That's Dart, not Flutter.

And even so, Dart transpiles to JS for the Google Ads. They could switch to plain JS, or Typescript, or even move to a whole new implementation of Google Ads, and pull the plug.

They also used to use GWT, did that hold on?

Re:Flutter desktop shells by Apocryphon on Thursday April 25, 2019 @12:38PM (#19749854)
It did for nearly a dozen years.
Re:Flutter desktop shells by SlowRobotAhead on Thursday April 25, 2019 @06:04PM (#19752922)
Is that a good life for a programming language? It doesn't seem long compared to others.
Re:Flutter desktop shells by Apocryphon on Thursday April 25, 2019 @06:50PM (#19753254)
GWT lasted 11 years.