Re:200 Countries, 200 Years, 4 Minutes
by mike-cardwell on Monday December 06, 2010 @06:55AM
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How would you improve the ranking system?
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I don't know of a complete fix, but a start would be to rank based on upvotes in the past hour (or 2 hours, or whatever works best) instead of since submission. This would allow links submitted days ago to end up on the front page if they were recently upvoted a lot. The new algorithm could be put on an alternate front page (similar to http://news.ycombinator.com/classic) until it was tweaked to get the desired result.
Since detection of duplicates and content mirrors is currently done best by humans, I think another aspect of the solution is cultural. If we want to stop this sort of thing, people need to point out mirroring/linking and flag submissions. If we do it enough, the incentives will change to discourage this behavior.
Sounds like a good solution that would also decrease the asymmetry between first submission, new submission and up-voting. (There's one asymmetry that we'd like to keep: Who gets the karma, but the asymmetry of those actions on ranking aren't as interesting.)
If there were a "dup" button that let you actually mark what's a duplicate of what, you can try all sorts of things to shift karma and points around.
EDIT: I fleshed this idea out a bit and submitted it as an Ask HN: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1975950
I would final duplicate content and automatically merge likely submissions together. Spread the karma between the first 3 submitters in a 50/35/15 manner, so that the latter two still have incentive to spread the link outside of HN.
Re:200 Countries, 200 Years, 4 Minutes
by mike-cardwell on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @05:24AM
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That sounds easily abusable to me. People would just submit a duplicate article when they see an article gaining upvotes.