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Re:Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag by golfer on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @10:48PM (#19744600)
Specifically what remains?

They are basically the only OEM pushing self driving without lidar.

Their manufacturing facilities are childish compared to other large automakers.

Solar City, powerwall, and the solar roof are huge money losers and barely make a dent in the P&L statement.

Maybe just the brand name? But will the brand have the cache once it suffers bankruptcy? Maybe it will.

Re:Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag by sliken on Thursday April 25, 2019 @12:53AM (#19745089)
Seen the Cornell paper "Pseudo-LiDAR from Visual Depth Estimation: Bridging the Gap in 3D Object Detection for Autonomous Driving" or the more consumer friendly "Elon Musk Was Right: Cheap Cameras Could Replace Lidar on Self-Driving Cars, Researchers Find"?

Looks like a pair of cheap cameras with good stereo separation (distance between the cameras) provides very similar data to Lidar. All without the giant domes on the roof (like the waymo cars).

Re:Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag by dan678 on Thursday April 25, 2019 @12:38PM (#19749853)
Not in scenes with poor lighting, not in rain, not in fog, not in scenes with poor surface variation, and not at the ranges needed for safe on highway driving.
Re:Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag by sliken on Thursday April 25, 2019 @04:03PM (#19751979)
Sure. Problem is cameras are more similar to humans. So a camera based system will drive more like humans, and be less dangerous. If you use a Lidar based system and conditions are great for lidar, but terrible for cameras it's going to be very dangerous to mix autonomous lidar cars with human driven cars.
Re:Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag by dragonwriter on Friday April 26, 2019 @05:33PM (#19761950)
That's why you should have LIDAR and cameras, if nothing else so the car can use the cameras to predict and adjust to the condition-driven changes in behavior of the human drivers.
Re:Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag by pbreit on Thursday April 25, 2019 @03:32AM (#19745828)
First US car company in 60 years, electric at that. Best crash test ratings. Highest owner satisfaction. First US-owned factory in China. Built in about 6 months. Ability and willingness to use OTA updates. Willingness and ability to put auto-pilot on the road for consumers. Ridiculous performance. Better chip than Nvidia. Top 2 auto battery supplier. Best selling lux car in US (ICE or EV). Dramatically better battery efficiency. No dealerships. Online ordering. Plausible FSD story. Camera-based autonomy. $35k price point.
Re:Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag by philwelch on Thursday April 25, 2019 @06:42PM (#19753183)
DeLorean was founded less than 60 years ago.
Re:Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag by gchq-7703 on Thursday April 25, 2019 @06:45AM (#19746738)
Sorry, what does `FSD` refer to?
Re:Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag by sumedh on Thursday April 25, 2019 @08:47AM (#19747474)
Full Self Driving.
Re:Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag by notatoad on Thursday April 25, 2019 @01:03AM (#19745146)
Supercharger network, and associated licensing of supercharger tech to other EV brands
Re:Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag by newsoul2019 on Thursday April 25, 2019 @12:00AM (#19744871)
Did you mean cachet?