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Re:Tech Needs More Conscientious Objectors by halfmatthalfcat on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @04:21PM (#19732436)
We have the ACM (Association for Computing Machinery) but it's not promoted or advertised near enough in my opinion to people in the field.
Re:Tech Needs More Conscientious Objectors by intuitionist on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @06:21PM (#19733562)
My impression of the ACM is that it’s basically a glorified academic publisher. Maybe a relatively non-evil academic publisher, but I’d rather not take ethical guidance from any of those bloodsuckers.
Re:Tech Needs More Conscientious Objectors by mempko on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @06:06PM (#19733431)
This! I think what I'm going to start doing is to not take any computer professional seriously unless they are an ACM or IEEE member (or similar org in your country).

EDIT: Getting downvoted, clearly not a popular opinion. Are people here not interested in having a strong corporate-independent organization to push the industry forward?

Re:Tech Needs More Conscientious Objectors by neilv on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @07:32PM (#19734078)
Contributions to the EFF (or maybe ACLU) might be a better predictor of responsible professionalism, than membership in ACM and IEEE Computer Society.
Re:Tech Needs More Conscientious Objectors by mempko on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @07:58PM (#19734263)
EFF, FSF, ACLU are all great organizations. ACM is unique here though because it's specifically a professional organization meant to push the industry forward. EFF, FSF, and ACLU are great and should be supported but aren't as broad as ACM.
Re:Tech Needs More Conscientious Objectors by neilv on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @08:17PM (#19734360)
If the ACM is really pushing professionalism and ethics now, that's great.

I've actually been a member or contributed to all the organizations either of us mentioned, and EFF has seemed to me likely a better predictor, but that's just a guess.

Re:Tech Needs More Conscientious Objectors by mempko on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @12:57PM (#19740365)
My biggest issue with EFF is that they often take pro-corporate positions and is lead by many actual executives and former executives (see board of directors https://www.eff.org/about/board), while the ACM comes more from an academic or tech worker strain (see https://www.acm.org/about-acm/officer-bios).

So while I agree with the EFF on many policies, their corporate leanings are a turn-off and isn't, imo, a solid ground for people doing day to day work in computing.

Re:Tech Needs More Conscientious Objectors by wan23 on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @12:02PM (#19739765)
Yeah, even if the ACM or IEEE are not the organizations we need (and I'm not sure if they are or are not), we would be better off if we had a professional organization dedicated to promoting responsible practices.