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Re:Just 10% of U.S. plastic gets recycled. A new kind of pla... by rootusrootus on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @10:49AM (#19729166)
I like glass, but seems like the market has spoken on that one. We used to recycle (reuse, really) glass soda bottles back in the 70s and 80s. The bottles get ugly after a while, so people prefer fresh new ones. Today we still struggle to get above 50% recycling on glass, though it has been increasing over time.

Might be better to switch to aluminum. The recycling system appears more advanced.

Re:Just 10% of U.S. plastic gets recycled. A new kind of pla... by ip26 on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @11:18AM (#19729461)
With the industrial & urban styles currently popular (exposed building hardware, ripped jeans) you'd think worn bottles would be chic.
Re:Just 10% of U.S. plastic gets recycled. A new kind of pla... by nicpottier on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @11:50AM (#19729762)
In the US we may have spoken but the situation has also changed, so perhaps it is time to speak again? The market may not have realized the implications and externalities of switching to plastic for say all beverages.

I for one would welcome a switch back to reusable soda and beer bottles that were collected. (see Oregon bottle deposits)

Re:Just 10% of U.S. plastic gets recycled. A new kind of pla... by foobiekr on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @10:53AM (#19729192)
BPA coatings make aluminum problematic.
Re:Just 10% of U.S. plastic gets recycled. A new kind of pla... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @10:59AM (#19729263)
https://www.packagingdigest.com/food-packaging/most-food-can... (Most food cans no longer use BPA in their linings)

> At least 90% of today’s food cans have replaced linings that previously contained the controversial chemical bisphenol-A (BPA), according to the Can Manufacturers Institute. This is in reaction to market demands for more options in food safety.

> Food can linings now are typically made from acrylic and polyester. And all new materials are extensively tested and are cleared by regulatory agencies before being sold in the market. Linings are necessary to prevent the can from corroding, provide a barrier to bacteria and maintain food quality.

Re:Just 10% of U.S. plastic gets recycled. A new kind of pla... by gnicholas on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @12:55PM (#19730450)
I was under the impression that many producers simply switched from BPA to BPS, and that this may not be any better for our health: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bpa-free-plastic-...

I admit I've not researched the topic much, and would love to learn that safer materials are used now.

Re:Just 10% of U.S. plastic gets recycled. A new kind of pla... by bunderbunder on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @11:25AM (#19729526)
Looking at the big picture:

Available research has left us with a reasonable idea of the bounds on BPA toxicity, and seems to indicate that, in the amounts you get from modern cans, the effect, while non-zero, is probably quite small, possibly to the point of being negligible in the grand scheme of things.

For example, the bacteria and yeast that ferment food also tend to produce all sorts of known carcinogens and toxins. I'd personally expect the fermentation by-products present in my sauerkraut to have a much bigger effect on my health than the BPA that's used to line the can it's packaged in. That seems to be borne out in the science, too, insofar as the health risks associated with eating pickles are readily observable in humans at normal consumption levels, but it seems to take obscenely large megadoses of BPA to make a lab rat sick.

Available research has also left us with a reasonable idea of the health impact of air pollution, including from diesel truck exhaust. And I would guess that the health impact from the extra air pollution produced in shipping heavier glass containers instead of lighter aluminum ones is greater than that of the BPA dose you'd get from cans' linings.

Re:Just 10% of U.S. plastic gets recycled. A new kind of pla... by yvdriess on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @01:27PM (#19730835)
BPA is an Endocrine/hormone disruptor, these are not harmful due to toxicity. They do not follow a simple dose-responce as in, say, carcinogens. Some studies even show a higher effect at lower doses of BPA for instance.