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Re:TurboTax Uses Dark Patterns to Trick You into Paying to F... by akarma on Monday April 22, 2019 @02:29PM (#19721404)
Stolen from Twitter [1]:

"Government: You owe us money. It’s called taxes.

Me: How much do I owe?

Gov’t: You have to figure that out.

Me: I just pay what I want?

Gov’t: Oh, no we know exactly how much you owe. But you have to guess that number too.

Me: What if I get it wrong?

Gov’t: You go to prison"

[1] https://twitter.com/jordan_stratton/status/11181414550616719...

Re:TurboTax Uses Dark Patterns to Trick You into Paying to F... by godelski on Monday April 22, 2019 @02:35PM (#19721483)
I'm very happy this sentiment is becoming more common. It is just insane when you think about it.
Re:TurboTax Uses Dark Patterns to Trick You into Paying to F... by projektfu on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:16PM (#19722462)
I don't think the IRS sends people to prison for filing incorrectly. There's a difference between misreading the instructions and “willfully [making and subscribing] any return, statement, or other document, which contains or is verified by a written declaration that is made under the penalties of perjury, and which he does not believe to be true and correct as to every material matter.”
Re:TurboTax Uses Dark Patterns to Trick You into Paying to F... by mizchief2 on Monday April 22, 2019 @03:28PM (#19722013)
Sounds a lot like the "self evaluation" nonsense when it comes to performance review.

"I give myself a 5 and deserve a 5% raise" Oh well you only get a 2% raise.

Just lazy management that event "delegates" the only part of the job they are actually supposed to do.

Re:TurboTax Uses Dark Patterns to Trick You into Paying to F... by streb-lo on Monday April 22, 2019 @03:10PM (#19721840)
You realize that only a portion of people get audited right?

Sure, your government could calculate everyone's taxes but I'm guessing those taxes would need to go up...

Re:TurboTax Uses Dark Patterns to Trick You into Paying to F... by zymhan on Monday April 22, 2019 @03:16PM (#19721900)
The IRS does in fact compare the data you send them to the data they have. Presumably the IRS, famous for it's computer system, isn't hand-checking every return.
Re:TurboTax Uses Dark Patterns to Trick You into Paying to F... by int_19h on Monday April 22, 2019 @04:07PM (#19722358)
The government does exactly that for the majority of tax residents in most countries in the world. US, with its Byzantine tax return system, is an outlier.
Re:TurboTax Uses Dark Patterns to Trick You into Paying to F... by maxmax on Monday April 22, 2019 @03:26PM (#19721994)
Try filing your taxes using different numbers than on your W2/1099 and see what happens.

I guarantee you'll get a discrepancy letter.