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Re:Show HN: Should you buy a house and rent it out? by benj111 on Saturday April 20, 2019 @03:39AM (#19705301)
"Historically..... so everyone believes this will continue forever"

You know the same thing applies to stocks and shares. And in fact stocks and shares have risen more historically [1]

Shares also have liquidity, you can easily sell them in part or whole. You can diversify. One incident could easily destroy a house, if it destroys your well diversified stock investments you've probably got other problems.

So agreed the stock market is the better investment, but as we can't see the future, both are based on past performance. Yes there are headwinds, there always are, I can think of many many reasons why stocks could fall, that doesn't really change what has happened historically though.

Of course the beauty of investing is that if you disagree you can put your money where your mouth is :)

[1] https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/052015/which-has-pe...

Re:Show HN: Should you buy a house and rent it out? by chii on Saturday April 20, 2019 @04:31AM (#19705426)
> the stock market is the better investment

buying a house to live is not an investment, and i should think that people ought not to treat it as such. Buying a house gives you stability and security for shelter. It's quite possible that renting is cheaper, but you also can't do certain things while renting - such as small renovations (some places don't even let you nail a painting on to the wall).

Investments in real estate is a different ballgame to buying your home.

Re:Show HN: Should you buy a house and rent it out? by kgwgk on Saturday April 20, 2019 @04:52AM (#19705482)
The discussion is on the question “Should you buy a house and rent it out?”
Re:Show HN: Should you buy a house and rent it out? by lizknope on Saturday April 20, 2019 @07:46AM (#19706011)
I bought my house for $263K in 2002. It is currently worth around $330K. In that time I have spent about $40K on repairs (not true upgrades) for 2 new HVAC units, new roof, carpet, water damage, broken appliances, wood rot, lawn seed/fertilizer.

I'm happier living in a house than an apartment but my house is a place to live, and an item of value, but not an investment I expect to make profit from.

Re:Show HN: Should you buy a house and rent it out? by e12e on Saturday April 20, 2019 @07:55AM (#19706043)
That sounds odd - a 10% increase in (invested) value over 16 years? Isn't that below inflation?

(according to random site on the internet, it's a little below inflation: https://www.in2013dollars.com/2002-dollars-in-2018?amount=30... )

Re:Show HN: Should you buy a house and rent it out? by sokoloff on Saturday April 20, 2019 @08:32AM (#19706189)
You can't reasonably count things like lawn maintenance, carpet, water damage, wood rot, and broken appliances as part of the investment...
Re:Show HN: Should you buy a house and rent it out? by _ah on Saturday April 20, 2019 @12:15PM (#19707306)
Sure you can. If you were renting it out instead of living in it, all those costs would have to be paid on behalf of the tennents. It's part of the cost of doing business. So whether you rent or buy for yourself, it's all part of the investment calculation.
Re:Show HN: Should you buy a house and rent it out? by sokoloff on Saturday April 20, 2019 @12:46PM (#19707500)
It’s part of the natural expenses of owning a house, but is not relevant to an anticipated inflation-based increase in value of the underlying asset.
Re:Show HN: Should you buy a house and rent it out? by benj111 on Saturday April 20, 2019 @04:54AM (#19705487)
I thought we were talking about rental properties?

That said, buying a house is basically buying an index linked annuity that covers your rent on a property you have to maintain. So it is an investment, albeit one tied up with a lot of other baggage.

Re:Show HN: Should you buy a house and rent it out? by z3t4 on Saturday April 20, 2019 @03:51AM (#19705332)
Just make sure you only invest using money you can spare. If you are saving use funds (many different stock to spread the risk) . If you invest in a single house , stock or boat, there's always a chance it will sink and you lose it all.