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Re:Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has y... by oehpr on Friday April 19, 2019 @01:50PM (#19701494)
well, you can do what I do and wipe the OS. Though, that's a bit of a time investment.
Re:Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has y... by earenndil on Friday April 19, 2019 @02:04PM (#19701606)
Didn't the firmware add their malware to windows boot files, if detected? Not an issue if you can use another os, but if you need windows for some reason...
Re:Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has y... by npongratz on Friday April 19, 2019 @01:56PM (#19701539)
That's obvious, and certainly the first thing I'd do upon receiving such a device. But given how Lenovo got caught more than once pushing malware (after promising they'd fix it), I worry the problem could be deeply engrained in their product philosophy, and as such, I don't know that I'd even trust their firmware.

But maybe people change, and maybe I'm just being paranoid and depriving myself unnecessarily from hardware that I would like. (FWIW, I have used Thinkpads and greatly liked their keyboards, enough that I do consider them for every hardware refresh).

Re:Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has y... by rhizome on Friday April 19, 2019 @02:44PM (#19701924)
The harddrive that came with my ThinkPad hasn't seen electricity since it left the factory, I replaced it before I ever turned the laptop on.
Re:Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has y... by chipperyman573 on Friday April 19, 2019 @04:43PM (#19702835)
The hard drive isn't the only place malware can live (the BIOS would be one example of another place).
Re:Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has y... by rhizome on Friday April 19, 2019 @05:36PM (#19703220)
Well, you do what you can.