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Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by loktarogar on Thursday April 18, 2019 @09:52PM (#19696439)
moot point when you consider that military spending takes up more than half of the budget
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by jayess on Thursday April 18, 2019 @10:11PM (#19696519)
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by nhebb on Thursday April 18, 2019 @10:07PM (#19696500)
It's far lower than that. There's a fake pie chart floating around the internet showing Defense at 57% of the federal budget. For 2019, the real number was 12%. In previous years it was about 15%.
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by kasey_junk on Thursday April 18, 2019 @10:39PM (#19696655)
It depends on how you categorize things. The 50% numbers come from discretionary budgets & are accurate. But ‘most’ federal spending is not discretionary. It’s old people care.
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by burfog on Friday April 19, 2019 @02:02AM (#19697413)
There really isn't any non-discretionary spending. The closest we have is payments specified in international treaties, and even that can simply not be paid. All the rest is just a couple congressional votes and a presidential signature away from being eliminated.
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by nhebb on Friday April 19, 2019 @05:42AM (#19698174)
Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security are considered mandatory spending because politicians tend to like being reelected.
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by kasey_junk on Friday April 19, 2019 @08:48AM (#19699104)
That and it doesn’t go through the standard appropriations process.
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by nhebb on Thursday April 18, 2019 @11:00PM (#19696767)
Discretionary spending is about 1/3 of the budget, and, yeah, defense is half of that, but when the GP wrote that "military spending takes up more than half of the budget" it paints a misleading picture.
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by jjoonathan on Thursday April 18, 2019 @09:56PM (#19696456)
Nope. It takes up about a third of the budget and is itself in large part a social program.
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by chii on Thursday April 18, 2019 @11:05PM (#19696786)
a "social" program for defense contractors. I m sure they are hurting, and need to make more money.
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by jjoonathan on Thursday April 18, 2019 @11:30PM (#19696888)
A social program for able bodied men and women willing to work for a living. It's how my father escaped poverty.
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by lotsofpulp on Friday April 19, 2019 @04:08AM (#19697866)
A social program would be building schools, bridges, improving access to education, funding research for medicines to be put in public domain so it’s affordable. Adding a 12th aircraft carrier or developing an unnecessary fighter plane is not a social program.
Re:After a $14B Upgrade, New Orleans’ Levees Are Sinking by jjoonathan on Friday April 19, 2019 @08:35AM (#19699015)
Not everyone joins the military because the alternative is absolute shit, but it often is, and they often do. It is absolutely a social program in that sense, and if you cut it, your other social programs are going to have to take up the slack. You have to de-rate the "win" from cutting it accordingly.