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Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by siriniok on Thursday April 18, 2019 @12:09PM (#19692161)
Does anyone still use good old Unity? :)
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by someguy101010 on Thursday April 18, 2019 @12:32PM (#19692392)
I liked it a lot, really didn't understand the community hate for it. At first it was not nice but it was pretty nice before it was deprecated.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by zanny on Thursday April 18, 2019 @03:11PM (#19693886)
When it came out it was a substantial UX regression from Gnome 2 and it took a few releases to even reach feature parity.

The same thing has been seen with KDE 4 and 5, Gnome 3, and how long LXQT has taken. Users hate experience regressions passionately, and will actively hate projects that depreciate or replace their workflows, sometimes for years, and sometimes forever.

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by avhon1 on Thursday April 18, 2019 @03:47PM (#19694182)
When Unity first became the default DE on Ubuntu, it was unusably slow and buggy on my computer. (This was actually an improvement -- in the previous release, Unity would immediately crash, so I had only seen it in pictures and videos.) Gnome 3 Classic was still available as a fallback, but it still wasn't the same (to many changes, to much CPU), so I switched distros. (I didn't know enough at the time to install a DE myself.)

At the time, I was quite unhappy at Canonical for making their OS so difficult for me to use. I felt that I was being totally left behind, with a machine that was just old enough that it wasn't worth it to them to support it.

1 or 2 years later, I tried a newer release of Ubuntu on that machine. Unity was definitely more stable than before, but it was still frustratingly slow, and had sprouted the weird, unwanted amazon search feature. I continued to be disappointed that the default install of Ubuntu had become so needlessly graphics-intensive, and haven't played with it since.

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One other gripe with Unity -- I really didn't like how it thought that applications were more important than windows. It was difficult to switch between 2 or more windows of the same applications on the same desktop. The icon on the taskbar just showed a tiny arrow for each window. You had to hover over it before it would show buttons (icons? previews?) of each window that you could select. Alt+Tab was the same. You could only rotate between applications, but if you held it down for a moment, it would show the windows of that applications, and there was some way to pick between those on the keyboard.

I really didn't like that. I would often have 2 or more terminals open, or text editors, or file browsers, and I would want to switch to the one that I had least-recently used, and I would have to do this whole dance of pulling up the application, waiting to see the individual windows, and finally picking the one I wanted. The 2-3 seconds that took were very frustrating, since I knew that I had used to be able to hit Alt+Tab a couple of times to go directly to the window I wanted.

I have the same frustration every time I have to use an apple computer. It bugged me enough that I read through the keyboard shortcuts settings and learned about Cmd+Tilde, which helps, but is still very frustrating. I want a window! Why does it take two different kinds of keyboard shortcuts to get to the window I want!

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Between those two troubles, I am happy to have avoided using Unity.

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by Liquix on Thursday April 18, 2019 @01:04PM (#19692707)
Never had any qualms with the design, it was just too heavy for most machines I run ubuntu on. Felt like a laggy remote desktop connection.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by threatofrain on Thursday April 18, 2019 @02:10PM (#19693315)
I think it was too simple and non-customizable for Linux user's taste, but it was that same simplicity that made it a perfect OS for a public computer or for parents who only use simple apps.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by gameswithgo on Thursday April 18, 2019 @03:37PM (#19694116)
I can't understand any of it. Its looked the same to me for years and years. Other distros look a little different but nothing substantive is actually different that I ever notice.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by siriniok on Thursday April 18, 2019 @12:33PM (#19692409)
Agree. The last versions were pretty and (still) very stable.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by crankylinuxuser on Thursday April 18, 2019 @12:51PM (#19692581)
Was because of the slow screen refresh, and the shitty metro look that announces "im like windows, but poorer".
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by eitland on Thursday April 18, 2019 @01:09PM (#19692741)
Weird to see anyone talk about "good old" Unity.

I'm getting old enough to belive you.

For me however while I can believe it I really really cannot understand it: it broke my workflow in a number of ways by default and unlike Gnome 3, Unity was next to impossible to reconfigure to something I could use productively.

It is actually somewhat of a learning experience for me to see something I almost despised be missed by a number of people.

I think two easy conclusions should be "different strokes for different folks" and "make your software configurable".

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by dopeboy on Thursday April 18, 2019 @12:39PM (#19692457)
After discovering Cinnamon, I haven't been able to go back.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by dguaraglia on Thursday April 18, 2019 @02:17PM (#19693392)
Question: do you ever feel like Cinnamon isn't as responsive as it could be?

I was using Cinnamon (first on Linux Mint and then on Manjaro) for a few months before the release of Gnome 3.32. I've switched to Gnome 3.32 and it feels much more responsive than Cinnamon. In particular cycling windows and doing anything while a notification is being displayed.

I really wish Cinnamon didn't stutter as much. It's the right amount of "desktop" I need.

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by jandrese on Thursday April 18, 2019 @02:28PM (#19693513)
IIRC Cinnamon still does compositing, so maybe you've gotten stuck on the software only path? This can happen when drivers get blacklisted for example. I use it on one of my laptops and it's been pretty smooth for me.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by dopeboy on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @01:31AM (#19725833)
I sense it too - it's just sluggish enough for me to notice.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by freedomben on Thursday April 18, 2019 @01:40PM (#19693029)
Cinnamon is a truly underrated DE. I don't use it anymore (now that I have most of the Gnome 3 shortcuts memorized, I love it) but Cinnamon took the gorgeousness of Gnome 3 and mashed it up with the classic functionality of Gnome 2. Why the community rallied around MATE and not Cinnamon I will never understand.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by levesque on Thursday April 18, 2019 @01:29PM (#19692934)
Even though the switch happened a long time ago, I still have a strong dislike for Gnome Shell. It might be irrational at that point since I've had plenty of time to get used it and I can't pinpoint an exact reason why I dislike it so, but it just irks me. I think the default theme deserves part of the blame. How can it still be so ugly? Unity was beautiful and behaved more naturally IMO.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by chrismonsanto on Thursday April 18, 2019 @01:00PM (#19692662)
I do and have no plans to switch from it.

The constant UI flux is the worst part about using Linux.

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by Rooster61 on Thursday April 18, 2019 @01:18PM (#19692838)
This is why I personally like MATE. I remember when they switched from Gnome 2 to Unity, and I just stopped using Ubuntu until I discovered Mint, which I installed with MATE and the rest was history.

I've moved on from Mint, but the fact that the MATE dev community took the tried and true paradigms learned from Gnome 2 and made kept them alive in spirit won me over. I installed Ubuntu MATE to a box just the other day.

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by freedomben on Thursday April 18, 2019 @01:41PM (#19693040)
Ubuntu MATE is a phenomenal distro. For VMs and lower resource machines it is always my go to.

Not to imply that it isn't valuable on high end machines (it is), but I personally really like Gnome 3 these days once I got used to it's way of doing things.

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by thaumasiotes on Thursday April 18, 2019 @01:28PM (#19692924)
I remember the switch. That's when I switched from Ubuntu to Xubuntu, where I still am.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by jjrh on Thursday April 18, 2019 @03:28PM (#19694051)
Never got this complaint. Just because something different is installed by default doesn't mean you can't install something else (or use one of the many _buntu's to make life a little easier)

A constant window manager is actually one of the strong points of linux. Lot of people still use twm.

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by mort96 on Thursday April 18, 2019 @05:01PM (#19694729)
When someone complains that they enjoyed using DE X, and the distro switches to DE Y, they get told that they can just install and keep using DE X. When they later come asking about issues they're having related to DE X, they get told that it's not officially supported and that they should probably switch to DE Y.

Both responses on their own are perfectly reasonable, but it's understandable if users get a bit frustrated.

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by chrismonsanto on Thursday April 18, 2019 @05:53PM (#19695130)
They aren't just changing the default, they are dropping it entirely. The GNOME port is noticeably different. Apparently some other company is going to continue work on the original Unity and I hope that works out.

To give another example, one upgrade my Xmodmap stopped working, and I had to stop everything to learn how xkb worked. If there is some package I could install to just have Xmodmap work again, that'd be great, but I wasn't able to figure it out at the time.

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by rafaelfers on Thursday April 18, 2019 @12:35PM (#19692426)
Yes, I still use it on ubuntu 16.04. I Will stay with this version until the eol
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by siriniok on Thursday April 18, 2019 @12:36PM (#19692437)
I'm using it on 18.04, works perfectly.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by jandrese on Thursday April 18, 2019 @02:29PM (#19693526)
IIRC 18.04 is supposed to be an extra extra extended release, so it's a good one to get comfortable with.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by dgivney on Thursday April 18, 2019 @06:03PM (#19695212)
Me too, I spent 3 days with 18.04 and promptly downgraded again.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by Kipters on Thursday April 18, 2019 @01:30PM (#19692939)
I do and I have no plans to switch away from it. If/when it won't work on Ubuntu anymore I'll probably switch to Plasma, but for sure I'm not going to switch to Gnome. I have a desktop i7-7700 with 32 GB of ram and an RTX 2060 and Gnome still feels sluggish
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by freedomben on Thursday April 18, 2019 @01:39PM (#19693021)
Interesting, I have almost the same system (slightly different Nvidia card) and Gnome feels very quick and responsive to me. Maybe I need to try out unity again
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by benttoothpaste on Thursday April 18, 2019 @12:46PM (#19692518)
Unity is still available but needs to be installed explicitly (apt install ubuntu-unity-desktop).
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by finchisko on Thursday April 18, 2019 @03:37PM (#19694115)
which version is available? unity8?
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by artworx on Thursday April 18, 2019 @02:18PM (#19693409)
Its still the smoothest DE on my old Acer laptop from 2012. It never misses a frame and gets out of the way maximizing the space for the applications.

Out of the box its not very configurable, but install compiz settings manager and its very good.

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by reddotX on Thursday April 18, 2019 @01:24PM (#19692886)
yep on 19.04 works fine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRmJPjfenEo

sudo apt install ubuntu-unity-desktop

Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by sandov on Thursday April 18, 2019 @12:54PM (#19692597)
I do. I haven't upgraded from 16.04 because I like Unity.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by p_man on Thursday April 18, 2019 @12:38PM (#19692449)
Of course. Fractional scaling.
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by opencl on Thursday April 18, 2019 @02:21PM (#19693448)
GNOME 3.32/Ubuntu 19.04 allegedly adds fractional scaling for Wayland sessions but it doesn't work for me (doesn't show up in settings).
Re:What's new in Ubuntu 19.04 by Mikeb85 on Thursday April 18, 2019 @12:32PM (#19692394)
Old Unity? No. New Unity (Gnome Shell), yes.