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Re:Foxconn's Gou Runs for Taiwan President, Citing Message f... by linuxftw on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @09:54AM (#19682541)
The US recently did something similar with Ukraine.
Re:Foxconn's Gou Runs for Taiwan President, Citing Message f... by sctb on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @12:22PM (#19683954)
> Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Foxconn's Gou Runs for Taiwan President, Citing Message f... by Aloha on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @10:11AM (#19682708)
Ukraine has 200+ years of reasons to want to look west instead of east - this same truth exists for all of the former baltic republics.
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Re:Foxconn's Gou Runs for Taiwan President, Citing Message f... by scottie_m on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @11:14AM (#19683267)
When the US wants regime change, it usually gets it.

Ah yes, that must be why Iran is a Democratic paradise free from the IRGC and ayatollahs. Venezuela, Cuba, Ecuador, Colombia, Saudi Arabia, Libya, China, Russia, Myanmar, are all so relentlessly pro-US for the same reason I’d assume. And of course it’s not as though Russia has a history of interfering in their sphere, or sent their military to annex a part of Ukraine.

Re:Foxconn's Gou Runs for Taiwan President, Citing Message f... by archgoon on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @11:42AM (#19683535)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Euromaidan_and_2014_re...

> However, Members of Parliament voted on 22 February to remove the president and set an election for 25 May to select his replacement.

That's not a coup.

> Petro Poroshenko, running on a pro-European Union platform, won with over fifty percent of the vote, therefore not requiring a run-off election.

That is also not a coup.

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Re:Foxconn's Gou Runs for Taiwan President, Citing Message f... by archgoon on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @01:07PM (#19684374)
Generally speaking, I find it effective, when I disagree with someone's sources describing an event, to explicitly provide my own. This ensures that the person I'm speaking with knows what sources I find credible, and knows the version of events that I'm willing to defend as accurate.

Also, if you feel that the Wikipedia page is misrepresenting the situation, I encourage you to engage on the talk page, and update the event section to provide an alternative view point. Yes, you'll get some pushback, but you can then cite the same published sources that you find to be more reliable, making it easier for people to follow the different threads.

The events in the Ukraine during 2014 are important, and I would like to have Wikipedia be accurate on it.

Re:Foxconn's Gou Runs for Taiwan President, Citing Message f... by linuxftw on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @02:56PM (#19685386)
I don't think Wikipedia is a good source for anything that goes against an established narrative, no matter the subject. I don't have any interest in making sure Wikipedia is up to date when there are state actors publishing their view of events on Wikipedia.
Re:Foxconn's Gou Runs for Taiwan President, Citing Message f... by sk0g on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @10:43AM (#19682983)
Out of curiosity, considering your teeming confidence on this, have you spoken to many Ukrainians? I lived in a country (practically) bordering them, and their sentiment regarding Russia mirrorred ours. Bit too much, we have both gotten in conflict with them, over the last decade or so...
Re:Foxconn's Gou Runs for Taiwan President, Citing Message f... by lostconfused on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @11:18AM (#19683316)
You'd need to specify an age group since it shouldn't be too hard to find supoort for Russia from the older generation that grew up under Soviet Union and is now feeling nostalgic for their past.
Re:Foxconn's Gou Runs for Taiwan President, Citing Message f... by sk0g on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @07:21PM (#19687284)
Oh I know, there's this sentiment of "Yeah it was a bit dull and restrictive, but we could afford to feed our kids properly." It's... a complex issue.