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Re:Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge by bradleyjg on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @08:41AM (#19681997)
Why not both? There are addicts that live quiet unobtrusive lives and there are addicts that make everyone around them—-entire cities worth of people—-miserable. The existence of the former mean the latter don’t get off with “I’m an addict, it’s not my fault”. What we are suffering from is not merely the existence of addicts but the tolerance of addicts that choose to indulge in wantonly antisocial behavior.
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Re:Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge by CathedralBorrow on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @08:45AM (#19682022)
I agree that addicts can certainly be irresponsible people, just like non-addicts can be. But to your point, do you believe the solution is to arrest more drug users? Is that what you mean by tolerance of addicts?
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Re:Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge by bradleyjg on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @08:49AM (#19682054)
Not for simple possession, no. But when people, drug users or otherwise, do things like like improperly dispose of hazardous medical waste? Yes, that person belongs in jail.
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Re:Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge by CathedralBorrow on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @08:51AM (#19682062)
Why do you think this approach hasn't worked so far? Sounds like we could solve the majority of drug problems by putting these people in jail.
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Re:Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge by bradleyjg on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @08:52AM (#19682068)
Who says it hasn't? Did you ever visit NYC during the Bloomberg administration? It was a nice place. Then we got De Blasio.
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Re:Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge by CathedralBorrow on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @08:56AM (#19682092)
Fair enough. If you believe the war on drugs has been a success so far then I guess we don't have much of a basis to debate further.
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Re:Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge by bradleyjg on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @09:00AM (#19682123)
You are being disingenuous. I specifically said I didn't think people should be arrested for possession. That's the war on drugs. You are suggesting drug users should get full immunity for any and all of their criminal behavior (e.g. leaving hazardous medical waste in the street where kids can be infected). That's not "ending the war on drugs", that's anarchy.

If you want to be an anarchist, that's your right. But you don't get to mischaracterize people that think we should have laws as 80s style drug warriors.

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Re:Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge by CathedralBorrow on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @09:20AM (#19682259)
> You are suggesting drug users should get full immunity for any and all of their criminal behavior (i.e. leaving hazardous medical waste in the street where kids can be infected). That's not "ending the war on drugs", that's anarchy.

This is not even close to what I was suggesting. Talk about being dishonest.

Why would you complain about being mischaracterized, and then blatantly do the same?

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Re:Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge by dragonwriter on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @09:03AM (#19682137)
> Sounds like we could solve the majority of drug problems by putting these people in jail.

Talk about an approach that hasn't worked so far.

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Re:Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge by CathedralBorrow on Wednesday April 17, 2019 @09:40AM (#19682419)
I agree. See the sentence right before the one you quoted.
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