What has Zuckerberg done since it was a tiny website to demonstrate his views have changed? I have yet to see anything. In fact, to my mind he has billions of dollars of revenue that reinforce that view.

The whole business model of Facebook is to collect personal data and sell it for profit. It should surprise no one that they are doing that. Furthermore, it shouldn't surprise Americans that there are zero regulations protecting their non-health related data. Free stuff on the internet doesn't run on fairy dust.

Something doesn't have to be surprising for people to legitimately protest against it. The existence of Facebook isn't a result of some democratic consensus, it's some dude's get-rich scheme that's happened to have popped off.

The consensus was set by electing politicians who don't work for the common good. Facebook is nothing new. Our privacy has been systematically degraded by the data broker industry which has existed since before ARPANET. Congress protects that industry and Facebook reaps those benefits.

So what exactly is the point you are trying to make? Are you saying that none of us should care about privacy or the actions of Facebook because we've failed to elect appropriate politicians or failed to get the general public to understand what Facebook is doing?

The only way to get people to start thinking about these problems and implementing change is by publicizing stories like this. Seems like a very defeatist and unproductive attitude to just say "this is how it is" and leave it at that as your comments seem to imply

> Zuckerberg said that when his tiny website was open to his classmates and a few others, and hasn’t been representative of how the company functions.

How can you claim that in the context of the revelations from this article? Seems like the company functions exactly like we're all "dumb fucks". And why do you think his attitude would change to be more egalitarian as his success and power increased?

Edit: > I seriously cant believe that it’s still a meme people use to justify their hate for Facebook.

It's not a meme. It's the founder and CEO of a company that holds the private data of >2B users telling us exactly how he feels about his users' expectations of privacy. Since then Facebook has only experienced growth and success. What event in Mark Zuckerberg's professional life could have significantly challenged this attitude do you think? It's been all positive feedback loops until recently.

>It's the founder and CEO of a company that holds the private data of >2B users telling us exactly how he feels about his users' expectations of privacy.

No. It's a (literal) teenager thinking aloud, making comments in jest to a friend about his student project becoming viral and getting hundreds of users, to his own amazement. He seems to be noting how little people seem to care for their privacy.

And that's about it. There's much to say against Facebook these days, but it's a preposterous thing to say these comments accurately reflect the current views of their leadership at a completely different scale.

What are you on the record saying when you were 19 ?

Ah look, another facebook/ex-facebook employee. Interesting how on this site the only people that consistently defend facebook are people who have or are financially benefiting from it, and yet they never mention this in their comments

It has been perfectly representative of how the company functions. Collecting and monetizing data from the "dumb fucks" with little to no regard for anything other than profits and getting people addicted to their apps

edit1: Guess I made some facebook engineers upset as I'm being downvoted. Looks like dymk is likely a facebook engineer, as his comment history has lots of comments seemingly supporting facebook, data collection, and ads, or at the very least arguing against those that oppose them. Reframe it however you want, Zuckerberg, Facebook, and its engineers are immoral and not concerned with the privacy or security of anyone's data. The people that knowingly continue to work their are complicit in the net negative impact facebook has on society

edit2: dymk is no longer a software engineer at facebook, but he was until early this year

This is a continuing problem on this platform. Facebook engineers disguising themselves as regular joe defending Facebook, when they have a personal interest. Silently downvoting or flagging comments. This isn’t the first time someone has mentioned this problem. They should be upfront about it and say they are a Facebook engineer and why they disagree.

> Collecting and monetizing data from the "dumb fucks" with little to no regard.

I doubt humans are that simplistic, but at the end of the day, it seems they all have a price, and for that price they can invent lies so they can sleep at night thinking they're decent people.

And until this headline I thought they (and Zuck in particular) still had a code of honor when they say they won't abuse the trust their users had, but, well, apparenly that also has a price.

Why until this headline? Stories like this about Facebook and Zuck have been coming out for years

I don't think its overplayed, rather re-emphasized over the years using business terms instead though.

It's still a meme because it is clearly still how Zuckerberg thinks.

His words and actions are those of someone who gives zero fucks about his user base as long as he gets to continue exploiting their private information.

It started as "dumb fucks" and has merely been reworded over the years into longer and longer policy documents and press releases.

The "dumb fucks" quote is basically Facebook's business model.

"Here's all this data we have about people, pay us money and we'll help you exploit it."